- 17 Sep 2020 00:41
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It is possible to oppose the neoliberal order and not be a socialist. I'm glad you've come to understand that.
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Random American wrote:
It is possible to oppose the neoliberal order and not be a socialist. I'm glad you've come to understand that.
B0ycey wrote:Funny. The happiest nations in the world usually embrace social programs like healthcare.
Godstud wrote:I doubt very much that you were ever a "Socialist", @Agent Steel. You've always struck me as a right-winger in all your postings.
Agent Steel wrote:I made a few posts on this forum intermittently saying that I thought that socialism is a good thing and that we should strive for it.
Well, today I'm actually a much happier and healthier person than I was before.
You see, it was only when I was really angry and vengeful towards society that I sympathized with socialist ideas. I felt completely screwed over and felt that I deserved to get something back to compensate for all of my suffering.
In that type of troubled state, it's not easy to think rationally.
But the truth is that socialism actually would have only ended up hurting me even more. As hard as that is to imagine, given all of my pain and suffering, that is actually the harsh truth.
When you think things can't get any worse you are willing to take risks for example like trying drugs to alleviate the pain. Like drugs, socialism could relieve your pain but only for a short while. It would be a big mistake and it would create a reality far worse than anything you could imagine!
Black Consequense wrote:
Pretty much all have homogenized demographic. At first I called white republicans and conservatives "racists"(they are but, I don't use that term much anymore cause it implies I'm an integrationist or lack common sense.) cause through out their whole bullshitted rhetoric personality responsibility and fuck you got my attitude, it was just front for not letting Black people have access to it. But now it make sense, we would be more dependent on their white government and welfare and considering how Black babies are 3 more likely to die in white hospital hands, Blacks being guinea pigs for vaccine trials. And still getting less quality even when they pay for it(doctors believe Blacks have less reception to pain), and we'll just waste it.
You can be a right winger politically and socially and be economically socialist.
t.yours truly.
Igor Antunov wrote:
To summarize; you became a productive member of society again, no longer relying on handouts, and now you are no longer a socialist. Makes sense. Socialism is good in small doses, as a safety net. But making it the basis of your entire socio-economic system is as foolish as making unbridled private corporatism the basis of your economy. It doesn't serve most in the real world most of the time long term. You need a mixed outlook.
Agent Steel wrote:
How are tax cuts a form of socialism?
Agent Steel wrote:
Not true; the wealthier you are the higher your tax rate is.
Agent Steel wrote:Not true; the wealthier you are the higher your tax rate is.
ckaihatsu wrote:No, a person *can't* be a right-winger politically and socially and still be a socialist in any way. Remember 'separate but equal' in the U.S. -- ?
Regarding your social separatist politics, what do you think about colleges and universities?
Being a workers-of-the-world socialist both economically and politically, I'm all for anti-oppression activism but the accompanying political *separatism* I'm seeing doesn't sit right. I think it's *understandable* but also bemoan able.
Any comment on W.E.B. Du Bois?
Igor Antunov wrote:
Not really. Once you go past a typical doctors salary (poor docs pay $55% tax in this country) and hit the big leagues, i.e over 1 million a year, the taxation system of any given country no longer applies to you. You buy your way onto a board of directors and bam you're part of the global taxation system. i.e loopholes galore. Then your corporation only pays 1-2% tax (see facebook/google/apple in australia) and even the middling shareholders get those benefits handed down to them through inflated dividends.
Rancid wrote:It's good to be rich.
FUCK POOR PEOPLE!
ckaihatsu wrote:Government subsidies seem to work well enough for private research, the military, corporations, the wealthy (tax cuts), and even Wall Street.
That's socialism for the rich and capitalism for everybody else.
Agent Steel wrote:I have a good job.
Random American wrote:
We should just call that kleptocracy. It is a rule by thieves; they tax us and give our money to the elites who gorge themselves.
Igor Antunov wrote:
Not really. Once you go past a typical doctors salary (poor docs pay $55% tax in this country) and hit the big leagues, i.e over 1 million a year, the taxation system of any given country no longer applies to you. You buy your way onto a board of directors and bam you're part of the global taxation system. i.e loopholes galore. Then your corporation only pays 1-2% tax (see facebook/google/apple in australia) and even the middling shareholders get those benefits handed down to them through inflated dividends.
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