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#15123572
jimjam wrote:$750 …. :lol: ….. that's better than $0 ……. something that even the mentally challenged can grasp in it's ludicrousness.

Sure, he didn't (have to) pay taxes, which may not have been his fault if he just managed to avoid taxes legally. I wonder if he's going to turn it to his advantage in a debate arguing that he couldn't do much about it as president (because that's what actually matters) because of Congress.
#15123597
Beren wrote:Sure, he didn't (have to) pay taxes, which may not have been his fault if he just managed to avoid taxes legally. I wonder if he's going to turn it to his advantage in a debate arguing that he couldn't do much about it as president (because that's what actually matters) because of Congress.


Yes, most likely. He never takes responsibility when matters go south and always has someone to blame.
#15123615
Rancid wrote:I wonder if Trump really is donating his salary. He sounds very poor.


Apparently not donating it.
#15123642
Atlantis wrote:a complete failure

Not a complete failure.

A failure as a businessman, that much is a given.

According to a published tax return, he managed to lose $915,729,293 (almost $916 million) mismanaging three Atlantic City casinos.

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But one cannot deny he is quite an accomplished conman.

He won the presidency when all is said and done.


:)
#15123655
late wrote:Any audit is completely irrelevant

His taxes are irrelevant. What's relevant is that he's the first US president to come to the White House straight from the private sector, because the public no longer trusts establishment politicians or the media. You folks have had four years to reflect on the effects of free trade agreements, illegal aliens, the opioid epidemic, flat wages and so forth and modify your policies. You've doubled down by pushing against Trump on free trade, offering free health care to illegal aliens and fighting against a wall that most politicians voted for as recently as 2006, providing drugs to people at government expense during the pandemic, and threatening to raise corporate taxes well above those around the OECD again. That's what's relevant, and you chose not to address it. Now you will face the music again, as nobody is interested in your character assassination schemes.

late wrote:The question is why Americans would want to vote a conman into the White House?

Trump is still the lesser of two evils. You can see that if you look at Biden's pedigree and who controls him, but you are choosing not to do that. Support for Trump has never been about his character. That's why trying to destroy his character is pointless.

jimjam wrote:They obviously show him to be, at best,an expert at going bankrupt and working a stacked deck that favors billionaires ... not the conned masses he pretends to look out for.

Think of most US startups. Think of the billions of losses accrued by Uber for example. Look how much money Facebook lost before it went public. I've been part of startups that never made money and got bought by large corporations with huge goodwill, because of their potential. Guess who writes off those losses when they acquire the company? Big corporation? You guessed it.

Beren wrote:Sure, he didn't (have to) pay taxes, which may not have been his fault if he just managed to avoid taxes legally. I wonder if he's going to turn it to his advantage in a debate arguing that he couldn't do much about it as president (because that's what actually matters) because of Congress.

He already did with Hillary Clinton in 2016. They cannot publish his returns without probably facing criminal prosecution, so they are just rehashing the story line from 2016. Hillary, "You didn't pay any taxes even though you made millions from your TV show." Trump, "because I'm smart."

ingliz wrote:A failure as a businessman, that much is a given.

You have no idea why people will create businesses that are losing money from the outset. All startups are failures until they are successful, because all of them are losing money initially.

ingliz wrote:He won the presidency when all is said and done.

Yes, but not because Trump is a conman. It's because both parties bought off on free trade and illegal immigration, and Trump was able to take up the issue and monopolize it. They gave Trump a monopoly on those issues in 2020 too. By contrast, the Democrats fought amongst themselves for who would outdo Bernie on leftism, and even though Biden came in fourth in Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire and second in Nevada, they all dutifully bowed out and threw their support behind the clear loser. Then, Biden picked his VP candidate from one of the candidates who dropped out before voting even began. Now, Biden is campaigning even less than Hillary Clinton in 2016, while Trump is seeing rallies with thousands of attendees all across the battleground states.
#15123658
This is just another (fake) bombshell which Democrats think it is. Actually It is not.

1. Releasing a politician's taxes is important when the politician is being suspected over gaining financial benefit throught his political career. Trump has been already a multi- billonarie when he became the president. How do you blame him?

2. Republicans are ideologically against taxing. They are for less taxes. Less taxes equal to smaller government. It is a conservative motto. How do you blame a Republican president for being a republican? :lol:
#15123701
blackjack21 wrote:
His taxes are irrelevant. What's relevant is that he's the first US president to come to the White House straight from the private sector, because the public no longer trusts establishment politicians or the media.



But there is a different way to think about Trump’s career, which is that he is a brilliant con man, who has, throughout his career in business and politics alike, honed the singular skill of identifying marks and exploiting them with spectacular lies.

The strategy was to convert Fred Trump’s fortune into publicity, which Donald could then monetize. The lies used to construct Trump’s image were massive. In 1984, Donald concocted a series of lies to persuade Forbes he was worth $900 million. Its reporter, Jonathan Greenberg, diligently unraveled every exaggeration and reduced the published sum to $100 million, only to discover decades later that the actual amount was a mere $5 million. The power of the lie was its scale. Greenberg could imagine Trump was exaggerating his wealth tenfold, but the idea he was exaggerating it 180-fold beggared imagination.

He blew a few hundred million Dad gave him, ripped off family members, lost the few hundred million he made on tv, and some number of hundreds of millions investors gave him. He's lost over a billion. He's one of the worst businessmen in human history, and he's been even worse as president.

He's a grifter, and you feel for it, hook, line, and sinker.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09 ... iness.html
#15123714
Fat Donald apparently owes someone $421,000,000. Who is this and does it present a national security risk? Shit …… if I owed someone 421 mill I'd be trying to cancel the election also.

To Donald's credit a superficial review of his tax avoidance appears legal. He did it largely the old fashioned way: He was a failed businessman who simply wrote off his losses.

$750 paid in tax for 2016 and 2017 …… Kinda looks like his accountants started with the bottom line and filled in the blanks by combing thru the Billionaire's Guide For Loopholes.

Fat Donald claims he is the only president to ever donate his salary to charity …… another lie …… Herbert Hoover and JFK did this also.

In 1976 Jimmy Carter had a zero tax bill and donated $6000 to the US government but then, Jimmy was a loser :eek: .
#15123745
ingliz wrote:Not a complete failure.

A failure as a businessman, that much is a given.

According to a published tax return, he managed to lose $915,729,293 (almost $916 million) mismanaging three Atlantic City casinos.

Image

But one cannot deny he is quite an accomplished conman.

He won the presidency when all is said and done.


:)


Yes he did win and those who route for the US constitution have won also. ..... 218 constitutionalists judge appointments. That is no con just another campaign promise.
#15123747
jimjam wrote:$750 paid in tax for 2016 and 2017 …… Kinda looks like his accountants started with the bottom line and filled in the blanks by combing thru the Billionaire's Guide For Loopholes.


Not that hard if you can deduct 70,000 USD for a haircut.
#15123771
Atlantis wrote:Not that hard if you can deduct 70,000 USD for a haircut.


My wife cuts my hair and, no kidding, I paid her $52,482 last year for "hairstyling". You can bet your bippie that i'm going to claim that for 2020. After all, if the potus does it …… it's OK :lol: .

I think the best strategy for getting rid of Fat Donald is to laugh him out of office.
#15123774
jimjam wrote:
I think the best strategy for getting rid of Fat Donald is to laugh him out of office.


Well by the process of elimination you have exhausted every single other strategy so I guess that one would have to be the best... :lol:

You fuckers literally threw everything and the kitchen sink at that guy and he's still standing, you might want to consider the possibility that in the minds of at least a plurality of Americans, you liberals are worse than a grotesque halfwit fake billionaire. :lol:
#15123861
late wrote:He's a grifter, and you feel for it, hook, line, and sinker.

I didn't vote for Trump, because I thought he was a brilliant business man. I voted for him, because I wanted someone who would take a wrecking ball to the establishment. If you think I voted for Trump for some other reason, it is you that was fooled hook, line, and sinker.

jimjam wrote:He did it largely the old fashioned way: He was a failed businessman who simply wrote off his losses.

You have real property yourself. You do realize you can depreciate it, right?

jimjam wrote:In 1976 Jimmy Carter had a zero tax bill and donated $6000 to the US government but then, Jimmy was a loser :eek: .

By donating his salary, which is what? $500k? I think he's got Carter beat.

Finfinder wrote:218 constitutionalists judge appointments. That is no con just another campaign promise.

Don't expect these guys to understand that. Trump ribbed Biden tonight about leaving over 100 court vacancies.

Sivad wrote:You fuckers literally threw everything and the kitchen sink at that guy and he's still standing, you might want to consider the possibility that in the minds of at least a plurality of Americans, you liberals are worse than a grotesque halfwit fake billionaire. :lol:

You can say that straight to their faces, as I just did to @late, and they still don't get it. I don't know if there's such a thing as collective narcissism, but the establishment certainly personifies such a concept.
#15123868
blackjack21 wrote:You can say that straight to their faces, as I just did to @late, and they still don't get it. I don't know if there's such a thing as collective narcissism, but the establishment certainly personifies such a concept.


I believe this is 'theeee' fundamental disconnect between the so called city and country voter bases. I've noticed it here in cuntland also. Country folk are usually more honest and flexible with being wrong or losing, as long as the changes aren't too dramatic. They tend to adopt a rebuilt it attitude. City folk...hell naw. Even if the change is minor in what they deem the reverse direction, they would rather die than concede. Losing even on minor issues and seeing prior social reform 'undone' is basically the end of history for them. Fundamentalism sure does play out in different ways, depending on environment and upbringing.

So the irony is, at least long term, conservatives tend to allow reform and movement in the liberal direction, but liberals sure as hell can't stomach even an inch toward conservatism. This is why I grow tired of libtards and their antics. Give an inch, they take a mile, ask for an inch, they demand a mile. Cheeky Fuckers. Current year does not mean a thing. We can just as well go back to the 1820's and a new age of revolutions where the reactionaries are demanding repeals on voting and individualism.
#15123908
blackjack21 wrote:
I didn't vote for Trump, because I thought he was a brilliant business man. I voted for him, because I wanted someone who would take a wrecking ball to the establishment. If you think I voted for Trump for some other reason, it is you that was fooled hook, line, and sinker.



So the economy is a wreck, we've got over a hundred thousand dead that didn't need to die, our influence in the world is severely diminished.

So, sure, you're a wrecking ball.
#15123913
late wrote:So the economy is a wreck, we've got over a hundred thousand dead that didn't need to die, our influence in the world is severely diminished.

You are still missing the point, but that's no surprise.
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