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US. President Donald Trump has ordered the removal of most American military and security personnel from Somalia, where they have been conducting operations against the al-Shabab militant group, the Pentagon said Friday.

Trump "has ordered the Department of Defense and the United States Africa Command to reposition the majority of personnel and assets out of Somalia by early 2021," it said in a statement.

The Defense Department stressed the U.S. was "not withdrawing or disengaging from Africa," amid concerns of a pullback from various areas in the continent.

"We will continue to degrade violent extremist organizations that could threaten our homeland while ensuring we maintain our strategic advantage in great power competition," it said.

The U.S. Africa Command has maintained some 700 troops, personnel from other U.S. security operations, and private security contractors in Somalia, both conducting attacks on al-Shabab and training Somali forces.

The U.S. personnel have sustained some casualties, including the death of a CIA officer in late November.

Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller visited Somalia a week ago, where he "reaffirmed U.S. resolve in seeing the degradation of violent extremist organizations that threaten U.S. interests, partners, and allies in the region," the Pentagon said.

The move came as Trump has sought to wind down U.S. military engagements abroad in his final weeks in office.

He ordered U.S. troop levels to be slashed by mid-January in Afghanistan and Iraq, to 2,500 troops in both cases.

The Pentagon said Friday that some of the personnel being pulled out of Somalia will be reassigned to neighboring countries to allow cross-border operations against extremist groups in conjunction with partner forces.

"The U.S. will retain the capability to conduct targeted counterterrorism operations in Somalia, and collect early warnings and indicators regarding threats to the homeland," it said.

Trump's decision to pull U.S. troops triggered dismay from some Somalis, who appealed to the incoming U.S. president to reverse the decision.

"The U.S. decision to pull troops out of Somalia at this critical stage in the successful fight against al-Shabab and their global terrorist network is extremely regrettable," Senator Ayub Ismail Yusuf told Reuters in a statement, referring to the al-Shabab insurgency.

"U.S. troops have made a huge contribution and had great impact on the training and operational effectiveness of Somali soldiers," said Yusuf, a member of Somalia's Senate Foreign Affairs Committee.

He tagged U.S. President-elect Joe Biden in a tweet criticizing the decision.

The Somali government could not immediately be reached for comment early on Saturday.

Somalia's fragile internationally backed government is due to hold parliamentary elections this month and national elections in early February, a precursor to the planned drawdown of the 17,000-strong African Union peacekeeping force.

The U.S. withdrawal comes at a turbulent time in the region. Ethiopia, which is a major troop contributor to the peacekeeping forces and has thousands more troops in Somalia bilaterally, is distracted by an internal conflict that broke out last month. It has disarmed hundreds of its peacekeepers already.

Somalia has been riven by civil war since 1991, but the entry of the peacekeeping force in 2008 helped incubate fledgling government structures that allowed for gradual reforms of the military, such as a biometric system to pay soldiers and the formation of Somali special forces known as Danab.

But many problems with the Somali military remain, including corruption and political interference.

https://www.dailysabah.com/world/africa ... om-somalia

Promises are being kept even he lost reelection.
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@Drlee

It seems that way to me the way it looks like the state of New York is waiting for Trump to leave office on January 20th. No possible "self pardon" will be able to save Trump from any possible legal jeopardy he might face once he leaves office as far as state charges are concerned.
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Istanbuller wrote:Promises are being kept even he lost reelection.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

After 4 years, you still don't know the first thing about Trump.

His presidential decrees are worthless because Congress won't approve and Biden is going to revise.

He can't even withdraw troops from Germany, which he decreed months ago, because a coalition of Republican and Democrat representatives is convinced that it is contrary to US security interests.
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Somalia - The gift that keeps on giving. But it is Ethiopia that has been in the headlines recently with possible civil war and sedition.

Pulling forces from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia. Are we witnessing a build-up to a military coup in the United States? :excited:

No, even they are not that crazy. Trump might be but they would shoot him in the head before siding with him.
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MadMonk wrote:Pulling forces from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia. Are we witnessing a build-up to a military coup in the United States? :excited:


Trump knows that his decrees are worthless. It's just his way of poisoning the political well for the next administration.
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It doesn't really matter if his decrees are worthy or not worthy. He kept his campaign promises. He is different than establishment swamp creatures in Washington. I bet that Biden won't keep even %10 of his campaign promises. The guy is a hardcore swamp creature.

Atlantis wrote:He can't even withdraw troops from Germany, which he decreed months ago, because a coalition of Republican and Democrat representatives is convinced that it is contrary to US security interests.

American soldiers in Germany are not dying. Trump didn't even promised anything about that.

I tell you that you should worry about the future of Germany's economy when Biden admin arrives in January. They will portray Russia an an enemy to Europe. They will press Germany to cut off relations with Russia. Obama did it. Biden will do that either.

You enjoyed 4 years of relaxed economic relations with Russia but that came to an end. You will receive so many threats.
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@Istanbuller, nothing of what Trump promised came true. He's a complete failure. If he had wanted to withdraw troops he would have done it earlier, not at a time when he knows perfectly well that none of his decrees about troop withdrawal will be acted on. He promised troop withdrawal in general and in particular from Germany. He's such a fake that none of it will come true. He's a looser! :lol:
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It is your Trump derangement syndrome makes you talk like that.

He promised to build a wall on Mexican border. He did it. He promised to wipe out ISIS. He did it. He promised to recall American troops located in war zones where endless wars occur. He did it.

Your anti-Trump rants do not change the facts. Trump bashing comments make you guys look stupid. You should change this habit. He crushed your asses in 2016 and for 4 years following that. Get over it if you still don't want to accept. :excited:
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He's also basically just trying to make things more difficult for the incoming admin. If Biden redeploys to Somalia, Trump will say "LOOK AT THE WAR MONGER!" which is interesting now all of a sudden republicans are an anti-war party (they're not, but the Trump wing will claim it).

Anyway, I'm not against this, we should allow other powers to move in further in Africa anyway.
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Rancid wrote:He's also basically just trying to make things more difficult for the incoming admin. If Biden redeploys to Somalia, Trump will say "LOOK AT THE WAR MONGER!" which is interesting now all of a sudden republicans are an anti-war party (they're not, but the Trump wing will claim it).

Anyway, I'm not against this, we should allow other powers to move in further in Africa anyway.

Why do you do that if you are scared of being called warmonger?
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SaddamHuseinovic wrote:Great move this will lower the fighting spirit of Al Shabab.

Now are just Turks left in Somalia, this will be hard for Al Shabab to claim they fight the crusaders, when Turks are on the ground

Turkey played the same role in Afghanistan. It was Turkish forces who are only not attacked by Taliban.
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Istanbuller wrote:Turkey played the same role in Afghanistan. It was Turkish forces who are only not attacked by Taliban.


I do appreciate honesty, @Istanbuller :up:

Most of your compatriots are reluctant to admit that Turkey is, in fact, an objective ally of the terrorists.
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Atlantis wrote:I do appreciate honesty, @Istanbuller :up:

Most of your compatriots are reluctant to admit that Turkey is, in fact, an objective ally of the terrorists.

No. It means that Turkey is a role model country. Turkish forces are friendly forces, not crusaders like you. Turkey's military role in Afghanistan is so many times praised by NATO.
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Politics_Observer wrote:@Drlee

It seems that way to me the way it looks like the state of New York is waiting for Trump to leave office on January 20th. No possible "self pardon" will be able to save Trump from any possible legal jeopardy he might face once he leaves office as far as state charges are concerned.

Trump is going to flee the state charges to a non-extradition country and his retarded followers are going to declare him president in exile. That would be a scenario in which the US really does become a Latin American basket case (sorry, if the term seems offensive, just trying to make the point). I think the US would be a shithole country officially if that happened, though actually the US is basically a shithole country right now. You seeing the homelessness and stuff?

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