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Drlee wrote:More racist bullshit from @Julian658
The answer is that obtaining an ID can be a problem for any number of people. Why do you ask? What is the problem you are trying to solve?
wat0n wrote:If most of Latin America, Europe and Canada can manage I don't see why the US can't.
Rugoz wrote:To my knowledge there isn't a single country on this planet that requires voters to provide a photocopy of their ID with mail-in ballots (in Australia it can substitute the witness signature) . I checked here:
https://www.ifes.org/sites/default/file ... r_2020.pdf
wat0n wrote:Quite specific angle you looked for there. In the US you don't even need an ID to vote face to face.
For mail-in ballots, I think a signature is fine.
Julian658 wrote:I am not saying Trump lost because of voter fraud. The number of fraudulent votes they found was not enough to change the election outcome.
The video catches the spontaneous reactions of white people that think most blacks are not smart enough to have ID. There is no acting here.
But, I ask you the same question: Do you think black people are ill prepared to obtain an ID card?
Rugoz wrote:- Depends on the state: https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identific ... s_by_state
- The question is what motivates Republicans to make demands that are not common practice anywhere (except in Alabama and Arkansas).
I was once of the opinion that Democrats should take this more seriously, but I don't think it would change anything. The Trumpsters would simply come up with even more elaborate conspiracy theories.
Rancid wrote:Depends on the state. I have to show ID to vote here.
Doug64 wrote:The Republican Study Committee has endorsed a bill with thirty co-signers, the Save Democracy Act, for protecting election integrity. For federal elections, the bill would require:
- Prohibiting automatic voter registration.
XogGyux wrote:This does not address any of my points.
Also. It does not matter whether it was spontaneous reaction of these people, specially if there is any chance of editing and/or selectively choosing the answers of certain people over other.
It is like when you see interviews of people asking "where is paris" and then they put the answer of 4-5 people saying something "isen't paris part of canada?" or "Isent europe part of paris" or "Mexico".... yeah, perhaps those are the spontaneous answer of a few people, but how many people did they have to skip and/or ignore (not publish) their answers, to ge their funny viral video... how many people did they interview that correctly placed paris in france that they simply didn't show.
Same thing here, how many people did interview that had a more reasonable/nuanced answer that they simply did not include?
Furthermore, you conveniently did not address any of my points. Good for you, at least at a subconscious level you realize this is bullcrap.
wat0n wrote:Right, it depends a lot on the State. But I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to do, since it's done in several Western countries as well (many of which aren't even developed).
As for the trumpists, you won't convince them since this is an excuse to impose a result by force. But convincing everyone else seems logical to me.
Furthermore, the ID thing is broader than just about elections. You need a proof of identity to do things as mundane as buying alcohol, attending some colleges or driving, for instance. The fact that 11% of Americans are believed to lack one is truly amazing.
Rancid wrote:Yea, I don't have a problem with requiring IDs to vote. It's true that there are a lot of people that cannot afford IDs or to spend the time to go get one. However, I also thing that it would be easy for non-profits to help these people too.
Or make it free if you are a SNAP recipient, make it easier to do the whole thing online or by mail (and just get the card delivered at home), etc. It's not like this is somehow impossible.
Yea, I don't have a problem with requiring IDs to vote. It's true that there are a lot of people that cannot afford IDs or to spend the time to go get one. However, I also thing that it would be easy for non-profits to help these people too.
Drlee wrote:How about we start with the assumption that voting is a right not a privilege. It is the responsibility of the government to make it as accessible as possible to every voter.
ingliz wrote:In Malta, you get a special one-time voter ID card with your photo on it delivered by hand to your door. You can't vote without it. But one person can sign for all those eligible to vote in the household, and the Election Board issues them to all registered voters free of charge.
The Indian voter ID card is an identity document issued by the Election Commission of India to adult domiciles of India who have reached the age of 18, which primarily serves as an identity proof for Indian citizens while casting their ballot in the country's municipal, state, and national elections. It also serves as general identity, address, and age proof for other purposes such as buying a mobile phone SIM card or applying for a passport. It also serves as a Travel Document to travel to Nepal and Bhutan by Land or Air It is also known as Electors Photo Identity Card (EPIC). It was first introduced in 1993 .WIKIPEDIA
The voter card is issued to all Indian citizens who have attained the age of 18 years and qualify to be a voter. One has to apply on prescribed Form-6 of Election Commission attached with proof of ID, Indian nationality, age and residence.
Those of "unsound mind", convicted of "corrupt practices", or offenses related to elections are ineligible to vote.
Applicants have to submit paper Form-6 to their Booth Level officer (BLO) of the area.
Applicants can also apply online on the website of the chief electoral officer given for that State or can directly apply to the website named National Voter Service Portal (NVSP).
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