- 18 Jan 2021 03:07
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If it's just thousands it sounds like part of the clinical trial to me. I don't tend to put much stock in Western reporting on China so I'll look into it.
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Report September 26 wrote:First, workers at state-owned companies got dosed. Then government officials and vaccine company staff. Up next: teachers, supermarket employees and people traveling to risky areas abroad.
noemon wrote:Has China denied this?
Fasces wrote:I'm sure you've read an English language paper about Greece and been aghast. I simply don't consider most Western news about China to be that reliable, and would take it with a grain of salt.
noemon wrote:Several in fact, but there is nothing in that article to be aghast about. It's a report not an editorial.
wat0n wrote:In all fairness...
Fasces wrote:it still meets the regulatory definition of a clinical trial.
No dressing up of headline can change the dangers of experimental RNA vaccines. Covid does not justify such an experimental drug.
Drlee wrote:@Igor Antunov
Both of these statements are simply your opinion. Nothing more. I think Neoman is correct in his evaluation of your motives. Good luck with that comrade.
Can you elaborate which "dangers" it is about which you are speaking? Specifically who is covering up all of these bad outcomes for we have seen exactly none so far? (Other than the vanishingly rare anaphylactic shock case, none of which have been fatal as far as I have read.)
But don't take any vaccine if you are more frightened of it than you are of Covid. Irrational fears can seem very real.
Igor Antunov wrote:It's my opinion that Norwegian medical authorities have found that side effects of the pfizer vaccine have killed at least 23 people? And that a virus that only kills the elderly in any statistically relevant number can be used to justify inoculating those people with a vaccine that is potentially killing them-when there is a much safer alternative with 100% efficacy at preventing medium and severe cases already available? Ok. Let's ignore the facts and just roll with your fantasy instead if it works for you. Clown world is only accelerating China's century. Keep at it tiger.
And that a virus that only kills the elderly in any statistically relevant number
... can be used to justify inoculating those people with a vaccine that is potentially killing them-when there is a much safer alternative with 100% efficacy at preventing medium and severe cases already available?
Drlee wrote:I see. You consider 8000 Californians under 65 who have died of the disease as not "statistically relevant". That is not being a scientist. It is being a sociopath. Neoman is right. You are trying to level-up.
What vaccine is that? If you are considering the Chinese vaccine then you have a problem. It is simply not available. If you want to have China put the rest of the world on hold and send us a few hundreds of millions of doses though I am sure we can find some interest in them.
Politics_Observer wrote:@Igor Antunov @Drlee
I think you are a Serb from the Balkans Igor who has an axe to grind with the U.S. given the NATO bombing campaign of Serbia a long time ago in the 1999 over Kosovo. Perhaps, you were also a participant in the Balkan Wars that took place in Bosnia in the early 1990s. A Bosnian Serb so to speak. You probably still hold a grudge over our intervention to bring the Serbs to the negotiating table to sign the Dayton Peace Accords in Bosnia. That is my guess. It seems you might have immigrated to Australia after the Balkan Wars of the 1990s. I could be wrong though.
You certainly seem to have the sense of humor and mannerisms of a Serb, which Serbs can be pretty funny at times. Those things happened a long time ago and you just have to let it go and let the past be the past and look to the future. All that stuff of the 1990s is over and the past. It's not the future. Certainly China is a powerful a country. But I wouldn't admire China's government too much though given it is not exactly a democratic government. Don't be so sure as well that China will "rule over" and "triumph over" the U.S. either. We'll remain a powerful country as well for the foreseeable future.
Here is a serious question I have Igor, what do you think of the idea of the U.S. building close ties with Serbia (I ask this question from the assumption that you are a Serb from the Balkans who immigrated to Australia)?
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