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Should drugs be legal

No, deathpenalty for dealers and drugconsumers should be send to jail
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13%
No, the current war on drugs has to be continued
2
13%
Yes, but just marihuana consumption and trade, like in Netherlands, Catalania, Oregon and California
4
27%
Yes, but just consumption should be legal trade not, like in the Czech Republic
3
20%
Yes a total druglegalisation is the best way, you can buy and trade drugs which are taxed like tabacco
4
27%
#15150881
Often drug addiction is not about merit but about trauma or undiagnosed mental illness.

A person who had the misfortune to go through something traumatic that then led to drug abuse has no less merit and has done no less work than a person who has not had such misfortune.

And a person born with a mental illness likewise does not have less merit, especially when they are unable to access treatment and end up relying on drugs to deal with the symptoms.

I have no idea if these are the main factors in drug addiction, but they seem like the two main causes in terms of my own personal experiences with people dealing with drug addiction.

Expanding health services to cover these people so that these people can access mental health treatments is a good idea even if it will not reduce drug addiction, but it probably will.
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By Goranhammer
#15150898
late wrote:Look up the meaning of the word.


You prefer "merit-based" instead? I said meritocratic because the government is the one subsidizing these losers, and that's pretty anti-meritocratic.
#15150903
There should be harsh meusures against drugs and drug cartels.
The people who profit from it and people who allow the existence of such trading are a pile of horsecrap that feed of weak peoples misery.
I have friends that are addicts and I've lost one to drugs. Addicted people, we can't judge them they are just weak, that doesn't make them bad though.
So I think best thing we can do is set upmany rehab centers for all the current junkies to get treated and then start a real war on the cartels.
Anyone caught trafficing such crap should be sentenced to death.
Because heavy drugs, are just crap.
Only marijuana can be allowed. But only natural one, that kind of shit Albanian cartels are trafficing is just pure poison, they put battery in it wtf.
Anyway, no drugs, help addicts, only natural weed.
By late
#15151023
Goranhammer wrote:
You prefer "merit-based" instead? I said meritocratic because the government is the one subsidizing these losers, and that's pretty anti-meritocratic.



A meritocracy rewards merit.

It isn't a form of sadistic punishment.
By late
#15151024
Hellas me ponas wrote:
There should be harsh measures against drugs and drug cartels.



Going after supply and ignoring demand has failed for 50 years.

It will continue to be a horrible failure.
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By Sandzak
#15151034
late wrote:Going after supply and ignoring demand has failed for 50 years.

It will continue to be a horrible failure.




Ottoman Emperor Murad V. introduced deathpenalty for smoking... it did not work.


Saudi Arabia is the most sober country on earth but they have the highest consumption of psychotropic drugs, like Valium and Co.



The Alcohole prohibition lead to Al Capone.
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By Goranhammer
#15151098
late wrote:A meritocracy rewards merit.

It isn't a form of sadistic punishment.


I think not being a loser addict is pretty meritorious, personally.

You must set the bar pretty low on mankind.
By Pants-of-dog
#15151121
Goranhammer wrote:I think not being a loser addict is pretty meritorious, personally.

You must set the bar pretty low on mankind.


Your personal opinions and feelings about drug addicts are not an argument.
By late
#15151126
Goranhammer wrote:
I think not being a loser addict is pretty meritorious, personally.

You must set the bar pretty low on mankind.



This is so simple, a 5 year old would grasp it instantly.

Best of luck...
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By Sandzak
#15151142
Goranhammer wrote:I think not being a loser addict is pretty meritorious, personally.

You must set the bar pretty low on mankind.



First not all drugusers are addicts, like not all who drink buzz are alcholics.

I know many entrepreneurs who take cocain week-end.
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By Goranhammer
#15151194
Sandzak wrote:First not all drugusers are addicts, like not all who drink buzz are alcholics.

I know many entrepreneurs who take cocain week-end.


And we're not draining public coffers on their rehab either.

My argument stands - I support legalization of all drugs, as long as the spillover costs are personally maintained. When you become a burden to the state, you lose that right.
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By Deutschmania
#15151201
Sandzak wrote:First not all drugusers are addicts, like not all who drink buzz are alcholics.

I know many entrepreneurs who take cocain week-end.

Such bourgeois decadence comes as no surprise . https://llco.org/combat-bourgeois-culture-by-building-new-culture/ I feel that Vietnam has the right idea on how to deal with drug abuse . https://vn.usembassy.gov/drug-treatment-court-a-new-approach-for-vietnam-in-treatment-for-drug-addicts/ , https://vietnamlawenglish.blogspot.com/1999/12/vietnam-criminal-penal-code-1999-law-no.html - Articles 194-201
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By Goranhammer
#15151387
Sandzak wrote:With taxes on drugs, rehab could be payed and prevention.


Taxes on soda don't pay for people who need gastric bypass because they Doctor-Peppered their fat asses into obesity, nor does someone get subsidized chemo for lung cancer because they buy 2 cartons of Marlboros a week.

Besides, as a general rule I'm against Pigovian taxes, but it would definitely be needed here (and at a high level) to subsidize addiction costs. I just don't like the slippery slope that leads to.
By late
#15151393
Goranhammer wrote:
I just don't like the slippery slope that leads to.



I know, who the hell wants sanity.
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By Goranhammer
#15151396
late wrote:I know, who the hell wants sanity.


Pretty much tells your political views when your definition of sanity involves a world of junkies being subsidized by Daddy Gubmint.

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