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Because rich Western nations were never allowed to fully digest and practice the teachings of the following three texts (and many others), we are living with at least three huge flat Earths.
We are backwards.
We are ignorant.
We are dull-minded pancake-eaters.

And we are living with a social consciousness that expired sometime between the years 800 and 1880.

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OUR THREE BIG FLAT EARTHS
Three Great Texts that rich Western nations have erased from their cultures

1. The Quran (year 632)

Why is it important : Abrahamic 3.0 (the latest and most important upgrade)

Why was it rejected : Too severe against racism and usury (racket$), and too lenient with sexual freedom and female inheritance


2. On the Origins of Species (year 1849)

Why is it important : Darwin contrasts natural and artificial selection, and nature wins

Why was it rejected : Oligarchs insist on having nicer things than others, and on in-breeding


3. Das Kapital (year 1883)

Why is it important : Marx and Engels explain and deconstruct the scam of capitalist hierarchies and the mythology behind them

Why was it rejected : Oligarchs are much too attached to their lifestyles to allow radical change


... --- ...

In rich Western countries, we like to think that our social and economic system are based on the latest science and understanding of the universe. We don’t like to think of ourselves as *rich flat-earthers* because that would make our way of life sound crude, dumb, and dangerous.

Virtually all of us in rich Western countries have embraced the spherical shape of the Earth, that the planets rotate around the sun, the existence of gravity, etc. However, there are three significant *flat earths* in our societies, and they are all the product of the censorship of the oligarch class.

In all three cases, the text that is rejected is censored because… it would threaten some of the rackets of the oligarch class. Rich, Western countries are still run by wealthy old-money oligarcies working within the logic of organized crime, so their rackets are well-protected because lifestyle-generating. And this protection-of-rackets includes mass censorship.

But the censorship of these texts is not of the actual, physical texts. You can find all of them at a library near you. No, it is their application into the laws and constitutions of human societies that is strictly censored. Praxis is censored. Sure, you can read them, but then... that's it. There's nothing that can be done.

Without praxis, these texts just float around in our societies like bearded-ladies at a carnival – of casual interest to undergrads and left-wing meme-generators, but nothing more. They remain un-activated.

I chose these particular three texts because they are important links to many more discoveries of modern philosophy, and of our general understanding of our world. I could have included Foucault, but without Marx-Engels and Darwin, Foucault could not have deduced what he deduced. Etc. The three texts above generated many other texts and were pivotal in helping masses of people to understand *power*.

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#15146115
QatzelOk wrote:Because rich Western nations were never allowed to fully digest and practice the teachings of the following three texts (and many others), we are living with at least three huge flat Earths.
We are backwards.
We are ignorant.
We are dull-minded pancake-eaters.

And we are living with a social consciousness that expired sometime between the years 800 and 1880.

Image

OUR THREE BIG FLAT EARTHS
Three Great Texts that rich Western nations have erased from their cultures

1. The Quran (year 632)

Why is it important : Abrahamic 3.0 (the latest and most important upgrade)

Why was it rejected : Too severe against racism and usury (racket$), and too lenient with sexual freedom and female inheritance


2. On the Origins of Species (year 1849)

Why is it important : Darwin contrasts natural and artificial selection, and nature wins

Why was it rejected : Oligarchs insist on having nicer things than others, and on in-breeding


3. Das Kapital (year 1883)

Why is it important : Marx and Engels explain and deconstruct the scam of capitalist hierarchies and the mythology behind them

Why was it rejected : Oligarchs are much too attached to their lifestyles to allow radical change


... --- ...

In rich Western countries, we like to think that our social and economic system are based on the latest science and understanding of the universe. We don’t like to think of ourselves as *rich flat-earthers* because that would make our way of life sound crude, dumb, and dangerous.

Virtually all of us in rich Western countries have embraced the spherical shape of the Earth, that the planets rotate around the sun, the existence of gravity, etc. However, there are three significant *flat earths* in our societies, and they are all the product of the censorship of the oligarch class.

In all three cases, the text that is rejected is censored because… it would threaten some of the rackets of the oligarch class. Rich, Western countries are still run by wealthy old-money oligarcies working within the logic of organized crime, so their rackets are well-protected because lifestyle-generating. And this protection-of-rackets includes mass censorship.

But the censorship of these texts is not of the actual, physical texts. You can find all of them at a library near you. No, it is their application into the laws and constitutions of human societies that is strictly censored. Praxis is censored. Sure, you can read them, but then... that's it. There's nothing that can be done.

Without praxis, these texts just float around in our societies like bearded-ladies at a carnival – of casual interest to undergrads and left-wing meme-generators, but nothing more. They remain un-activated.

I chose these particular three texts because they are important links to many more discoveries of modern philosophy, and of our general understanding of our world. I could have included Foucault, but without Marx-Engels and Darwin, Foucault could not have deduced what he deduced. Etc. The three texts above generated many other texts and were pivotal in helping masses of people to understand *power*.

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You forgot the Bible then also. :roll:
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JohnRawls wrote:You forgot the Bible then also. :roll:


Product-placement instead of ideas?

Has the West's ignorance really come to this?

Why not mention Milton Friedman as well. His ideas were as popular as Xmas presents (not forgetting the bible for a second). :roll:
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Rancid wrote:I wonder if Qatz is one of those people that it will take 100 years after his death for people to realize how much of a genius he was.

This is depressing.

You are saying that "Flat Earths R Us".

Surely there is some hope that we can evolve... learn new tricks... not just roll over and play lockdown...
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QatzelOk wrote:Product-placement instead of ideas?

Has the West's ignorance really come to this?

Why not mention Milton Friedman as well. His ideas were as popular as Xmas presents (not forgetting the bible for a second). :roll:


Christmas is a pagan holiday that morphed together with the birthdate of Christ over time as Roman empire was Christianising. Basically Christians celebrate birth of Christ and Pagans celebrated their own holiday around the same time that involved giving gifts and partying so they morphed together.

Has literally nothing to do with capitalism or modern consumerism and has existed for more than a thousand years in this format. :roll:
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JohnRawls wrote:Christmas ...has existed for more than a thousand years in this format. :roll:

Yes, this particular Earth has been flat for a very long time. Santa Claus mythology is a very good example of just how "flat earth" rich Western countries are.

At what point will Western Civilization "discover" that red-suited corpulent men flying around in reindeer-engined sleighs DO NOT EXIST? Will this realization ever happen? Or is our society married to the idea of childlike ignorance as an adult model to emulate? (Whoever becomes humble like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.’ “(Matthew 18: 1-5))

Once we get over consumer mythology like this, will the West be ready for the new science?

1. That Natural Selection means that income inequality is just torture and hate mongering? Once we realize that Santa doesn't exist, will we finally understant this?

2. Or maybe once we get over Santa and elves narratives, we can start noticing that the rich get humungous Xmas presents from Santa for the same level of good for goodness sakes-ness. And this might be explained by the works of Marx and Engels, (along with Charles Fourier, Saint-Simon, etc.). If we ask Santa for literacy for Xmas, as well as a desire for learning, then we might be able to unpack the gift-giving of Xmas and realize what it really promotes and installs in children's heads. Profound materialism as a proposed cure for winter blues.

3. And then we can contemplate how Plato's advice to future oligarchs from a few thousand forgotten years ago - that they should pretend that a heaven and hell exist because this works so well as a manipulative narrative to motivate the slave classes. Perhaps we should take note that of the Abrahamic texts, ONLY the Quran recognizes the existence of pre-biblical Greek thought, and therefore, that it is the ONLY Abrahamic religious text that allows one to think like an adult. Allows one to NOT believe in fairies, or in fat men bearing board games for TV-dazed children.
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Our ignorance only looks like sophistication because we have so many useless possessions that we have been trained to think of as "progress." This includes the piles of never used board games and electronic gadgets gathering dust in basements and garages.
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By rejecting Marx and Engels' logical conclusions about the faults of capitalist production, social hierarchy, and private ownership (by not putting them into practice), the rich West was forced to retreat further and further into fantasy. Capitalist fantasy. The rich West had "left reality behind" by rejecting its own science.

So the period immediately after the publication (early 1900s) saw the rich West descend into:

techno-gadgetry - mass media marketing - hallucinogenic drugs

These for-profit fantasies were used as subsitutes for any kind of Social Purpose or Science.

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No more science, no more social purpose for the rich West: only Capitalist fantasy.

A science that emerged from this condition, Post-Structuralism literally refers to the death of a system.

Did the rich West's Marxism Flat_Earth also bring on *post-structuralism and cynical elogies to the practices of Late Capitalism* - the combination of which became to be known as *Post-Modernism* (as it relates to philosophy)?

Should we credit the musings of Darida, Baudrillard, Foucault, Orwell and many others, to our Collective Flat_Earth on Marxism?
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JohnRawls wrote:You forgot the Bible then also. :roll:

No, I didn't, and neither did the Modern West.

But the Bible's Old Testament and the Torah... contain both references to negative "races," and also a positive spin on ethnic cleansing. This text-endorsed "racism" opens the door to intercultural abuse. The Quran, on the other hand, erases the possibility of racism or of its resultant atrocities like intercultural usury and intercultural warfare that is purely cannibalistic in nature.

These Olde-Texte-endorsed practices - having missed the important upgrade of the Quran - are civilization-ending. Species-ending even.

And yet, they haven't been "swept clean" by a text that is already 1000 years old.
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