Yggdrasill wrote:Not condoning violence and property destruction at BLM protests (or any protest), but I wonder if you realize how ridiculous a statement you just made.
Not many stolen elections get rectified either. So? What's a populace going to do?
Yggdrasill wrote:One of the points, and causes, of the protests last year was precisely that many people were fed up with a lack of police accountability.
Many people are fed up with Democrats cheating in elections. Democrat prosecutors and Democrat judges protect Democrat unionized police forces all the time. I get that. They also do the same for their political operations. There is a reason there hasn't been a Republican mayor of Atlanta in 172 years, and it isn't the wild popularity of Democrats. It has something to do with corruption.
Yggdrasill wrote:Police departments are the most egregious offenders because they consistently protect their own, much like the Catholic Church protected child-molesting priests.
Or Democrat pollsters protect those committing fraud. The reality of the situation for police is that they are dispatched somewhere by someone. It's not something they conjure up on their own initiative in most cases.
Yggdrasill wrote:Even the prosecution of Derek Chauvin, the most famous case in the country, with video taped footage of and multiple eyewitnesses to his murder of George Floyd, is a difficult prosecution.
The problem with the Floyd case is that he was covid positive, had plenty of fentanyl in his system and had enlarged lungs. It's an easy case of excessive use of force. It's slightly more challenging as a manslaughter case. However, going for first or second degree murder is much harder to do with police officers, because they are being dispatched to a location by their superiors--making it extremely difficult to make the case that he woke up and said, "Hmmm. I think I'm going to kill a black man today." Amy Klobuchar ended up dropping out of the running for the VP slot hoping we'd all forget that she turned down the opportunity to prosecute Chauvin.
Yggdrasill wrote:Some of the more famous and egregious instances:
Eric Garner
Daniel Prude
Breonna Taylor
Andre Maurice Hill
Carlos Ingram Lopez
Stephon Clark
Philando Castile
Eric Garner also had health issues. Once again, he was in a Democrat-controlled city that was trying to squeeze every last bit of money out of cigarette taxes, and Garner was selling untaxed cigarettes. He resisted arrest and had to be restrained. The stress of the arrest combined with his health issues resulted in respiratory arrest. He was not choked to death intentionally by the police.
Daniel Prude was a case where he was detoxing from PCP, which causes psychosis and a low respiratory rate among other things. That why drugs like Dextromethorphan are prescribed for coughs. However, if you are psychotic and the police have to restrain you, and you have a depressed respiratory rate because of the illegal drugs you are taking, why is that the police department's fault? If it wasn't illegal to be on those drugs, they probably wouldn't even show up anyway.
Breonna Taylor's case is also hard to deduce, because the media outright lied as they did in the Michael Brown case. Evidence shows that the police did knock on the door, and the no-knock warrant story was false. There were stories that the police went to the wrong house. That was also a lie. Yet, the city settled, which to me suggests there might be some kind of kick back scheme going on between the government, litigators and the press. Too many of these seem like there may be some kind of a shake down involved.
Andre Maurice Hill is a valid case of the police not following procedure and not rendering aid. Coy was indicted three weeks ago. We'll see how that goes.
Carlos Ingram Lopez is another drug case with respiratory arrest involved. The officers in question didn't follow procedure, but it is unlikely that they killed Lopez intentionally or even unintentionally.
Stephon Clark was ordered to show his hands, and he put forward his cell phone, which in the dark the police mistook for a gun. Again, they will probably not be charged, because he was being tracked by a helicopter, and fled police trying to arrest him. Had he not been evading arrest, it probably wouldn't have happened.
The police officer, Yanez, in the Philando Castile case was charged and found not guilty. I think that's a case where the police definitely fucked up.
So you have famous instances, but only the Philando Castile case suggests a complete fuck up by the police. Most of the rest of these cases involve drugs, drug-induced psychosis and/or resisting or evading arrest.
Yggdrasill wrote:The death of Philando Castile is particularly horrifying. You can see the footage on the internet. The guy was out for a drive with his girlfriend and her young daughter. Wasn't intoxicated, didn't behave threateningly - and he's dead. Because the officer had an itchy trigger finger.
Yes. We are in agreement, but only on one of the cases you presented. One is still outstanding. However, these all generally involve non-compliance with police orders during arrests, health-related or drug-induced respiratory failure, or psychotic behavior.
Democrats are very dangerous people, whether they are civilians or working for the government.
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