- 23 Feb 2021 01:30
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Apparently I'm not allowed to post Twitter posts anymore, I guess the rules changed lately, I didn't know. The articles can be posted otherwise though:
The State Department’s top lawyers found “insufficient evidence” for genocide.
The single source of the Uyghur genocide is a deeply dubious figure named Adrian Zenz.
Here is a video of a Uighur woman calling out the imperialist attacks on her country.
I see Rancid is still Rancid.
I see Rich hasn't changed either. Cool.
You can read more about them in this article.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I'm pretty sure you didn't try to debate my love currently awaiting me somewhere in the universe, Carl Sagan. I know you didn't just try to debate him!
Tiresome is right.
A lot of people don't know that there has been much political violence in the province the Uighurs live in predominantly, bombing attacks, stabbings and such. Many Uighurs went to Syria to fight religious war against the Syrian Arab Army too and were placed in camps upon their return to China. These have been re-education camps, the Chinese government has admitted to this. It has since closed them down. But, those camps were what it says on the tin, they were about education. The Chinese government was propagandizing those within the camps to de-radicalize. To give up extremist beliefs. This wasn't Guantanamo though, where people are still tortured and continue to suffer indefinitely without charge. But we don't talk about Guantanamo anymore because it's not in the news. Still, there was no torture in the camps. They were about educating people away from their ideas, stuff like killing in the name of religion.
Those crying for the Uighurs in this thread act as though there is no context behind the camps, as if they are innocent victims that China hates simply for being Muslim. Apparently China hates Muslims in East Asia but is all about defending them in West Asia. Similar to how like the Americans are bombing and literally genociding Muslims today in various countries but also they care about Muslims being persecuted in China based on lies told by psychotic cultists like Andrew Zenz who believe in Armageddon and who cares about Muslims as much as he cares about Jews.
This is not going to be talked about because this story isn't on repeat in the mainstream corporate media. But it is true. It's also true the vast majority are in for non-violent crimes. And some sentences are ridiculous as a punishment on refusing a plea deal, for asking for the accusations to be taken to trial. There is also slave labour, prisoners paid about 24 cents per hour working for massive corporations like Nike and such. And those same prisoners being charged exorbitantly in the prisons for stuff like making calls to anyone, charged at rates the rest of the population in America don't suffer. The U.S. is currently holding onto the largest gulag to date, with over 2 million prisoners, but those crying about prison camps don't talk about it because it's not in the mainstream corporate media every day like the Uighur story is.
Apparently I'm not allowed to post Twitter posts anymore, I guess the rules changed lately, I didn't know. The articles can be posted otherwise though:
The State Department’s top lawyers found “insufficient evidence” for genocide.
The single source of the Uyghur genocide is a deeply dubious figure named Adrian Zenz.
Here is a video of a Uighur woman calling out the imperialist attacks on her country.
Heisenberg wrote:And by the way, @Rancid, if you actually want to make any substantive arguments, rather than childish sniping from the sidelines, I'm all ears.
I see Rancid is still Rancid.
Rich wrote:No radical Islamists are in a completely different evil camp to the imperialist, racist, genocidal, expansionist aggressor Han national Socialists.
I see Rich hasn't changed either. Cool.
Unthinking Majority wrote:The Falun Gong have fled China too.
You can read more about them in this article.
GandalfTheGrey wrote:Look, honestly, there is clearly a case for genocide here.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I'm pretty sure you didn't try to debate my love currently awaiting me somewhere in the universe, Carl Sagan. I know you didn't just try to debate him!
Igor Antunov wrote:And here it is, bleeding heart western liberals and neocons alike screaming mercy for Islamic extremism in China while they target and kill these groups on a global scale. SO TIRESOME
Tiresome is right.
A lot of people don't know that there has been much political violence in the province the Uighurs live in predominantly, bombing attacks, stabbings and such. Many Uighurs went to Syria to fight religious war against the Syrian Arab Army too and were placed in camps upon their return to China. These have been re-education camps, the Chinese government has admitted to this. It has since closed them down. But, those camps were what it says on the tin, they were about education. The Chinese government was propagandizing those within the camps to de-radicalize. To give up extremist beliefs. This wasn't Guantanamo though, where people are still tortured and continue to suffer indefinitely without charge. But we don't talk about Guantanamo anymore because it's not in the news. Still, there was no torture in the camps. They were about educating people away from their ideas, stuff like killing in the name of religion.
Those crying for the Uighurs in this thread act as though there is no context behind the camps, as if they are innocent victims that China hates simply for being Muslim. Apparently China hates Muslims in East Asia but is all about defending them in West Asia. Similar to how like the Americans are bombing and literally genociding Muslims today in various countries but also they care about Muslims being persecuted in China based on lies told by psychotic cultists like Andrew Zenz who believe in Armageddon and who cares about Muslims as much as he cares about Jews.
Heisenberg wrote:The US has the world's largest prison population in the world, at 2.3 million.
This is not going to be talked about because this story isn't on repeat in the mainstream corporate media. But it is true. It's also true the vast majority are in for non-violent crimes. And some sentences are ridiculous as a punishment on refusing a plea deal, for asking for the accusations to be taken to trial. There is also slave labour, prisoners paid about 24 cents per hour working for massive corporations like Nike and such. And those same prisoners being charged exorbitantly in the prisons for stuff like making calls to anyone, charged at rates the rest of the population in America don't suffer. The U.S. is currently holding onto the largest gulag to date, with over 2 million prisoners, but those crying about prison camps don't talk about it because it's not in the mainstream corporate media every day like the Uighur story is.
Heisenberg wrote:Ah yes, a pro life "think tank" that thinks Covid-19 was a hoax perpetrated by China to suppress the Trump vote in the 2020 election. Truly excellent source work once again @noemon. It perfectly complements the AP "investigation", which is yet more parroting of Adrian Zenz's "research".
Free Palestine.