- 08 Apr 2021 03:14
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That is the way I see it as well. The Ukraine that emerged from the crumbling Soviet Union had no business claiming areas heavily populated by ethnic Russians like Donbass and Crimea. Especially given that Russia itself is not far off. It was, in the hindsight, not wise at all. It was bound to become a serious problem for Ukraine from a resurgent Russia.
But I will say the drunk Yeltsin was more to blame for that bad divorce proceedings. To challenge and break the central power of the Kremlin under Gorbachev, Yeltsin basically opted for all the Republics bolting intact. It is possible Yeltsin did not see what lay down the road. How could he? He could not take his head off the vodka bottle to contemplate anything beyond the immediate future. The divorce proceedings were too hastily pushed along, and countries like Ukraine and Georgia wound up with Russian properties that was bound to be points of future contentions.
annatar1914 wrote:@Politics_Observer ,
Nobody 'stole' the Donbass from the Ukraine, or the Crimea, that is a damn lie. The Donbass region is ethnic Russian and came under attack by Fascists after the 2013 revolution in Kiev, and separatists therefore formed the Lugansk and Donetsk People's republics. I know, I know refugees who spent months dodging fire from their own alleged Ukrainian military forces, shooting at them. They fought the Ukrainian military forces off, with a little help from Russia (fortunately for them, the Donbass was the Ukraine's primary military industrial region already, and so the locals had sufficient arms to fight the Fascists off with.
Same with the Crimea. A vote was held by the Crimea's majority ethnic Russian residents to rejoin Russia, and so they did. Fortunately for them, the Ukrainian military wasn't around to try and murder them, but plenty of Russian forces there under agreement with previous Ukrainian and Russian governments.
This isn't America's fight to meddle in. The Ukraine is run by criminal oligarchs and fascist scum.
That is the way I see it as well. The Ukraine that emerged from the crumbling Soviet Union had no business claiming areas heavily populated by ethnic Russians like Donbass and Crimea. Especially given that Russia itself is not far off. It was, in the hindsight, not wise at all. It was bound to become a serious problem for Ukraine from a resurgent Russia.
But I will say the drunk Yeltsin was more to blame for that bad divorce proceedings. To challenge and break the central power of the Kremlin under Gorbachev, Yeltsin basically opted for all the Republics bolting intact. It is possible Yeltsin did not see what lay down the road. How could he? He could not take his head off the vodka bottle to contemplate anything beyond the immediate future. The divorce proceedings were too hastily pushed along, and countries like Ukraine and Georgia wound up with Russian properties that was bound to be points of future contentions.