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late wrote:They have a variety of tactics, you see some of them here, like the constant lying and gaslighting.

But what is making them successful these days is social media. They can microtarget the vulnerable and play on their emotions. It's a form of brainwashing.



I am always amazed at how unaware a lot of these average white guys are about believing such utter trash. But they are out there...lapping up the poisonous trash that is being spewed out there.
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One person's ideology is another person's brainwashing.

There is plenty of brainwashing in the mainstream media these days.

Like Pontius Pilate asked, "What is truth?"

I believe there has to be some objective standard, but I'm just saying the Right is often as bad as the Left. People are not interested in a fair unbiased assessment of the truth. (Or at least not the people producing it)

I personally don't support indoctrination or misleading deception, but who knows, I could be biased and not able to see my own faults.


Many of these people on the Right see themselves as trying to fight indoctrination on the Left. And I am sure it is the other way around, a little bit too. These type of things are a self-reinforcing cycle and escalates.

Of course there actually are some crazy groups that are borderline dangerous. And some "ideas" are prone to being more dangerous than other ideas. But that does not necessarily mean they are not true.

I'm not a cynic, in the sense of I hold to the belief that if people are actually genuinely trying to find the truth they will find it, and absolute truth is not merely all relative.
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late wrote:But what is making them successful these days is social media. They can microtarget the vulnerable and play on their emotions. It's a form of brainwashing.


Indeed. THis is such a big problem that last week the CIA put our a report saying that democracies around the world are at risk due to radicalization via social media.
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late wrote:They have a variety of tactics, you see some of them here, like the constant lying and gaslighting.

But what is making them successful these days is social media. They can microtarget the vulnerable and play on their emotions. It's a form of brainwashing.


Both the extreme left and the extreme right suffer from radicalization. The radicalization on the left has no limits, the more woke and lefty the better. The lefty people are hailed as the good guys by the media.

Radicalization on the right is pretty bad, but at least there is a boundary that is considered evil and that is white nationalism. The entire world will immediately point that out the evils of white nationalism without hesitation. Such criticism does not exist for the extreme left.
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Julian658 wrote:
Both the extreme left and the extreme right suffer from radicalization. The radicalization on the left has no limits, the more woke and lefty the better. The lefty people are hailed as the good guys by the media.

Radicalization on the right is pretty bad, but at least there is a boundary that is considered evil and that is white nationalism. The entire world will immediately point that out the evils of white nationalism without hesitation. Such criticism does not exist for the extreme left.



Remind me, please, which side invaded Congress to violently overthrow democracy?

I dub thee Sir Project a Lot...
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Julian658 wrote:Radicalization on the right is pretty bad, but at least there is a boundary that is considered evil and that is white nationalism. The entire world will immediately point that out the evils of white nationalism without hesitation. Such criticism does not exist for the extreme left.


When one movement is about discrimination and the other is about social justice, it isn't even a contest why one movement is more accepted than the other from moderates in society. Although the "Left" as you call them are merely reformers and the extreme left, the guys who take the piss, are known as SJWs. SJWs aren't really supported by the media actually. They are usually the butt of peoples jokes. We even had a thread about them once and people use to attach media articles about them that were comical in value. So how have you concluded that the media doesn't criticise the "Left"? You are making shit up again. Media, especially conservative media cannot wait for the next crazy to sing about their pussy on the internet so they can push their righty narrative.
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B0ycey wrote:When one movement is about discrimination and the other is about social justice, it isn't even a contest why one movement is more accepted than the other from moderates in society. Although the "Left" as you call them are merely reformers and the extreme left, the guys who take the piss, are known as SJWs. SJWs aren't really supported by the media actually.


Social Justice warriors can be very damaging. They proudly walk around with arm and sickle tee shirts and are possessed by an ideology that killed over 100 million in the 20th century. There is no mechanism in place to deter these fools. You can get commie T shirts in amazon or at any store. It is seen as OK.

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They are usually the butt of peoples jokes. We even had a thread about them once and people use to attach media articles about them that were comical in value. So how have you concluded that the media doesn't criticise the "Left"?


The only lefty that puts down SJWs is Bill Maher because he is not possessed by ideology.

You are making shit up again. Media, especially conservative media cannot wait for the next crazy to sing about their pussy on the internet so they can push their righty narrative.


You agree with the SJW commies in this forum, don't be so sanctimonious. I have never seen you debating POD or Taína Marie when they push communism.
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late wrote:Remind me, please, which side invaded Congress to violently overthrow democracy?

I dub thee Sir Project a Lot...

They did not fire a single shot inside the capitol. They were just a bunch of morons that were allowed to enter by a mediocre racist police force that assumed white people would not be as violent as BLM. That was racism! I almost never cry racism, but this was racism. When BLM was in town security was much tighter. They thought they needed less security because the protesters were white.
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Julian658 wrote:Social Justice warriors can be very damaging. They proudly walk around with arm and sickle tee shirts and are possessed by an ideology that killed over 100 million in the 20th century. There is no mechanism in place to deter these fools. You can get commie T shirts in amazon or at any store. It is seen as OK.


People who wear Commie tea-shirts are not SJWs. SJWs are the guys who want everyone to accept all their eccentric behaviour and that we all should change society to fit that behaviour into it no questions asked. The people who support social reform - which I might add you called smart, are the people making in roads within politics right now. They don't wear Commie shirts either. But they might have associated with people who did during University which is where you see these shirts in dorms. I can see you never made it quite that far in your education it seems.

You agree with the SJW commies in this forum, don't be so sanctimonious. I have never seen you debating POD or Taína Marie when they push communism.


I have said numerous times I am a Social Democrat. So for you to keep on associating me with other things such as Pure Socialism or SJWs or Wokeness or whatever the fuck you keep chatting shit about, means you don't understand what I keep telling you. I support democracy, if something isn't democratically elected or cannot be pushed through parliament than I am not interested in it. I also support a fair society. And I support social programs. I am not asking to take down the mechanisms of Capitalism because they will take themselves down soon enough either. I just support fair tax and welfare until we are forced to move our economic systems forward which is in line with Tainari thinking - hence why I don't need to reply to her often, just send the occasional like. PoD is a bit different. He is more like Pote and Ingliz where he supports guns and revolution. I don't agree with everything he writes but at the same time he sees the problems with Capitalism so we have some understanding on certain things. So again I don't need to respond to him. I do however have to respond to you. Only because you don't even know the topics you involve yourself in and I am trying to teach you why you are chatting shit. I don't expect that I can do that however, but I can at least educate the lurkers in informing them you haven't got a clue.
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wat0n wrote:How is arriving armed and taking over residential neighborhoods to found some anarchist commune against the residents' wishes in places like Seattle not radicalism?

The left wingers in the forum are possessed by their ideology. They reside in echo chambers that constantly affirm their views.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:Whatever the right are doing to radicalise white young guys, it is working.

The number of right wing terror attacks is far higher than the number by left wing radicals.

There were two attacks by Muslims and POC recently. Don’t be so naive. The POC Muslim that attacked the capitol was not a right winger.
#15166023
late wrote:The hard core came to kill, and that they did.

You need better lies.

One single cop was able to handle a crowd of a few hundred. If they were prepared to kill they were benevolent to him. I am not endorsing the attack, but “what if” is not an argument.

One cop committed suicide and another died of a stroke. They are counted as killings?
#15166032
Julian658 wrote:There were two attacks by Muslims and POC recently. Don’t be so naive. The POC Muslim that attacked the capitol was not a right winger.


Are you making the bigoted argument that Muslims and people of colour are never right wing?

Even if these attackers conform to your stereotypes, I am still right.

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