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Pants-of-dog wrote:Well, no one can prove 100% capitalism works in real life. It never has. This is why even the most fervently capitalist economies have adopted socialist policies.

And yet this standard that capitalism has never achieved is seen as the minimum needed before socialism can be accepted.

I agree 100% capitalism is just as bad, if not more bad than 100% socialism. So it may be that some kind of mix of both is the best we ever get to.

Capitalism is really good at producing goods/services efficiently/cheaply but not very good at making it fair or equal for everyone, while socialism is the exact opposite. So the logical thing to do is to choose what outcomes you want, then do capitalism or socialism depending on which is better at achieving a desired outcome.

If you want everyone in a country have access to quality education then privatizing it will just create hierarchies of access while socialism won't so socialism is better in this case. There's also ways to partly socialize and capitalize something at the same time to get a mix of both benefits (ie: subsidies, strong regulation, price controls etc.).
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Julian658 wrote:The virtue signaling is off the charts Jim.
BTW, that park is like full of human feces. Nasty! Kick them out and put them in a home in the suburbs.


Can't hold a candle to your enema signaling. Hey Bucko it's jimjam ….. not Jim … got it? Thanks

Ps …… I bow to your expertise in this area ……. how does one differentiate between dog shit and human shit :?: ??

so ends another positively cosmic exchange with our right wing elitist … #658 :lol:
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Julian658 wrote:That is great, but at the end of the day the capitalists have to create the wealthso the left can spread it around. And you are correct, this is the most prosperous time in world history.

“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. "

Adam Smith


That you have not understood a word I wrote is your problem - not mine!
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Unthinking Majority wrote:
I agree 100% capitalism is just as bad, if not more bad than 100% socialism. So it may be that some kind of mix of both is the best we ever get to.

Capitalism is really good at producing goods/services efficiently/cheaply but not very good at making it fair or equal for everyone, while socialism is the exact opposite. So the logical thing to do is to choose what outcomes you want, then do capitalism or socialism depending on which is better at achieving a desired outcome.

If you want everyone in a country have access to quality education then privatizing it will just create hierarchies of access while socialism won't so socialism is better in this case. There's also ways to partly socialize and capitalize something at the same time to get a mix of both benefits (ie: subsidies, strong regulation, price controls etc.).



This is ultimately *statist*, though, which is why I keep applying the term 'Stalinist' to such an approach -- politically it relies on a separatist specialist bureaucratic elite, made up of administrative professionals who produce no commodities for society themselves, leaving all others to have to work to produce commodities.


Components of Social Production

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(Also, in regards to your post, note the 'who' and 'what' in the 'humanities' portion of the following diagram.)


Humanities-Technology Chart 2.0

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I find it interesting that some here are kvetching about socialism in young people while BOTH parties are passing out government support for workers like candy. It is not they young people who want a decent living for their day's work. OR I should say, it is nothing new to want a good living for a day's work. It is a struggle we have been going on about for 120 years on the front page.
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