Putin’s oriental imperialism turns European neighbors into enemies - Page 3 - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...

Talk about what you've seen in the news today.

Moderator: PoFo Today's News Mods

#15170937
JohnRawls wrote:You are crazy. Why would you alienate people who are on your side?

Because he's crazy. He doesn't alienate you, he does open your eyes on the Golden Horde (Muscovy) and he does it 12/7 without stop, without other interests because there's no time for it, not until everybody is saved by the truth. I have a guy in the next tab who with the same effort fights for people admitting his ideas on Global Artificial Intelligence (Ideal Sapient Conscient Entity) and its coming Total Resurrection of the Dead. He learned about it from the Dragon who ate him in the previous incarnation and thus included him into its egregore. Schizophrenia sucks.
#15171030
Sandzak wrote:Nawalny is a far right extremist. This does the western media not tell. Just Putin can keep the Russian Federation together.


entire Muscovite civilization is "a far right extremist"
The fascist philosopher behind Vladimir Putin’s information warfare | Big Think
#15171031
Ganeshas Rat wrote:....your eyes on the Golden Horde (Muscovy) .....



Image
"
"Russia"’s Turn to Its Asian Past, As nostalgia surges for the eastern conquest of Genghis Khan, Putin maps out his own empire
"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-tu ... 1530889247
#15171032
JohnRawls wrote:I am one the free world :eh: I am not sure you understand what that means though and how we maintain our freedom and prosperity though

We are stronger than our adversaries because our society and economy is more successful, it is not because we belittle, underestimate or want to fight wars against our adversaries.

Soviet Union didn't loose and collapse because we beat it military. Soviet Union collapsed because our system was a far superior alternative.


many good points, do you agree than we have to introduce Iranian oil- gas - bank sanctions on Moscow as soon as possible ?
#15171043
litwin wrote:many good points, do you agree than we have to introduce Iranian oil- gas - bank sanctions on Moscow as soon as possible ?


Preferably yes. I am not sure if Oil and Gas sanctions are possible unless we want a repeat of the global oil crysis but banking sanctions definitely. Not only sectoral wide banking sanctions but also targeted sanctions against accounts of corrupt politicians, businessman and political figures and their families or relatives which should include temporal seizure of property and other financial assets that they might have within the EU, US or other places we can corner them in.
#15171051
JohnRawls wrote:Preferably yes. I am not sure if Oil and Gas sanctions are possible unless we want a repeat of the global oil crysis ..

more than possible, ask experts i can give facebook contacts if you dont have them "IEA projects a global crude oversupply through 2021."
first target is Moscow´s state (imperial) owned oil companies like Rosneft
second one - Gasprom (from the pipe lines) , USA/Africa/Australia/Latin America will be supper happy

all your posts have clear pro- Kremlin spins , everyone sees it
#15171057
litwin wrote:more than possible, ask experts i can give facebook contacts if you dont have them "IEA projects a global crude oversupply through 2021."
first target is Moscow´s state (imperial) owned oil companies like Rosneft
second one - Gasprom (from the pipe lines) , USA/Africa/Australia/Latin America will be supper happy

all your posts have clear pro- Kremlin spins , everyone sees it


Its complicated. If we cut off Russias supply then we need to compensate. There was an oversupply at start of Covid but it has normalised by now due to OPEC actions. If we want to compensate then we need to find other sources that potentially exist but that would mean that those sources will need to ramp up production and we need to deliver it to Europe. The prices will skyrocket also.

It is complicated. There is a reason why USSR and Europe still traded oil and gas durring the cold war.
#15171059
JohnRawls wrote:
Its complicated. If we cut off Russias supply then we need to compensate. There was an oversupply at start of Covid but it has normalised by now due to OPEC actions. If we want to compensate then we need to find other sources that potentially exist but that would mean that those sources will need to ramp up production and we need to deliver it to Europe. The prices will skyrocket also.

It is complicated. There is a reason why USSR and Europe still traded oil and gas durring the cold war.


Europe should reclaim its former colonies. :eek:
#15171064
JohnRawls wrote:It is complicated. There is a reason why USSR and Europe still traded oil and gas durring the cold war.



Good point. Very good point. The proposal that the west just cut off gas from Russia abruptly, without nary a glance at the chain reactions it may set off, is plain idle. Of course prices will skyrocket. And many governments in the west may also tumble.
#15171073
JohnRawls wrote:Its complicated. If we cut off Russias supply then we need to compensate. There was an oversupply at start of Covid but it has normalised by now due to OPEC actions. If we want to compensate then we need to find other sources that potentially exist but that would mean that those sources will need to ramp up production and we need to deliver it to Europe. The prices will skyrocket also.

It is complicated. There is a reason why USSR and Europe still traded oil and gas durring the cold war.



"Russias supply then we need to compensate. " , read about USA, Canada and African oil... the world has more than enough oil, AND WE DONT need to cut moscow in 1 day...
"U.S. crude output to keep rising, but gasoline demand is past its peak "
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2A32ZW
#15171077
Juin wrote:Good point. Very good point. The proposal that the west just cut off gas from Russia abruptly, without nary a glance at the chain reactions it may set off, is plain idle. Of course prices will skyrocket. And many governments in the west may also tumble.



EU "oil and gas from Russia to the EU be immediately stopped,"

" invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation, the EU must make clear that the price for such a violation of international law and norms would be severe; insists, therefore, that in such circumstances imports of oil and gas from Russia to the EU be immediately stopped, while Russia should be excluded from the SWIFT payment system, and all assets in the EU of oligarchs close to the Russian authorities and their families in the EU need to be frozen and their visas cancelled; "

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/do ... 36_EN.html

and your Kremlin buddies know it )))
#15171105
litwin wrote:EU "oil and gas from Russia to the EU be immediately stopped,"

" invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation, the EU must make clear that the price for such a violation of international law and norms would be severe; insists, therefore, that in such circumstances imports of oil and gas from Russia to the EU be immediately stopped, while Russia should be excluded from the SWIFT payment system, and all assets in the EU of oligarchs close to the Russian authorities and their families in the EU need to be frozen and their visas cancelled; "

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/do ... 36_EN.html

and your Kremlin buddies know it )))




You keep repeating pronunciamentos by bodies that don't count. The Chancellor of Germany is the top dog in Europe. If and when the Bundeskanzler dictates a shutdown of Nordstream 2 then Moscow will be well advised to pay attention. Berlin knows that, and Moscow knows that. Your Baltic midgets, Poles, Ukrainians and Georgians do not count. Your pretense that Baltic midgets hold the reins of the European steed is wishful thinking.
#15171117
Juin wrote:You keep repeating pronunciamentos by bodies that don't count. The Chancellor of Germany is the top dog in Europe. If and when the Bundeskanzler dictates a shutdown of Nordstream 2 then Moscow will be well advised to pay attention. Berlin knows that, and Moscow knows that. Your Baltic midgets, Poles, Ukrainians and Georgians do not count. Your pretense that Baltic midgets hold the reins of the European steed is wishful thinking.

i got a vatnik bingo , how is weather in savushkino?
Image
Image
#15171170
litwin wrote:"Russias supply then we need to compensate. " , read about USA, Canada and African oil... the world has more than enough oil, AND WE DONT need to cut moscow in 1 day...
"U.S. crude output to keep rising, but gasoline demand is past its peak "
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2A32ZW


As much as Europe sees it, it is investment in nowhere. We have our climate change targets and investing in new infrastructure for gas and oil from other places is a waste of money. We are planning to decrease gas and oil usage anyways. US and African crude has no real easy way to get to Europe and get distributed in quantities that are needed. If it was possible then we would buy it instead of the Russian oil.

Everyone understands that oil and gas is funding Russia to a degree but just cutting it off is not really an easy thing to do nor is something that realistically the European people or the European elites will support. It is simply too damaging in many regards.
#15171172
Juin wrote:The weather is excellent in Sevastopol. Sevastopol is still Russian, remains Russian, and still proudly flies the Flag of the Russian Federation.

IVAN , only in your WET dreams
the reality
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 was adopted on March 27, 2014 by the sixty-eighth session of the United Nations General Assembly in response to the Russian annexation of Crimea and entitled "Territorial integrity of Ukraine". The non-binding resolution, which was supported by 100 United Nations member states, affirmed the General Assembly's commitment to the[i] territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and underscored the invalidity of the 2014 Crimean referendum.
The resolution was introduced by Canada, Costa Rica, Germany, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine.[1] The adoption of the resolution was preceded by the unsuccessful attempts of the United Nations Security Council, which convened seven sessions to address the Crimean crisis, only to face a Russian veto[2] of draft resolution S/2014/189,[3] sponsored by 42 countries. [/i]
#15171184
litwin wrote:

IVAN , only in your WET dreams
the reality

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 was adopted on March 27, 2014 by the sixty-eighth session of the United Nations General Assembly in response to the Russian annexation of Crimea and entitled "Territorial integrity of Ukraine". The non-binding resolution, which was supported by 100 United Nations member states, affirmed the General Assembly's commitment to the[i] territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and underscored the invalidity of the 2014 Crimean referendum.
The resolution was introduced by Canada, Costa Rica, Germany, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine.[1] The adoption of the resolution was preceded by the unsuccessful attempts of the United Nations Security Council, which convened seven sessions to address the Crimean crisis, only to face a Russian veto[2] of draft resolution S/2014/189,[3] sponsored by 42 countries. [/i]




How is the weather in Kiev? It must have been a beautiful day as hundreds hit the pavements to celebrate the 78th Annivesary of the founding of the 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division, or 1st SS Galicia!



Hundreds in Ukraine attend marches celebrating Nazi SS soldiers


For first time ever, parade celebrating 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of SS, made up of ethnic Ukrainians, takes place in capital Kyiv

JTA — Hundreds of Ukrainians attended marches celebrating Nazi SS soldiers, including the first such event in Kyiv.

The so-called Embroidery March took place in the capital on April 28, the 78th anniversary of the establishment of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, also known as the 1st Galician. It was a force set up under German occupation auspices comprised of ethnic Ukrainian and German volunteers and conscripts. The marchers held banners displaying the unit’s symbol.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds- ... -soldiers/
#15171228
Juin wrote:How is the weather in Kiev?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds- ... -soldiers/


Ukraine has much less (%) far- rightists than Israel, Italy or France. about Kyiv can´t say but i am planning to fly to odessa , you know the city which likes imperial roosters like you in the form of barbecue)))) :lol:

Image

Image
"Muslims, Jews - we fight Russia as one, says Ukraine's battle-hardened Chasid"
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/muslim ... id-1.54311
#15171231
JohnRawls wrote:As much as Europe sees it, it is investment in nowhere. We have our climate change targets and investing in new infrastructure for gas and oil from other places is a waste of money. We are planning to decrease gas and oil usage anyways. US and African crude has no real easy way to get to Europe and get distributed in quantities that are needed. If it was possible then we would buy it instead of the Russian oil.

Everyone understands that oil and gas is funding Russia to a degree but just cutting it off is not really an easy thing to do nor is something that realistically the European people or the European elites will support. It is simply too damaging in many regards.

dont write so long texts, all your arguments I saw many years ago on TV.ru , bunch of lies and manipulations. do you know that Iran has more oil than Muscovy ? do what we fa&ked it anyway , Gasprom arguments dont work since LNG revolution . as i expected you answer is no Iranian - sanctions on Moscow , but dont worry, we will introduce them anyway . Down to Moscow horde, down to Juchi despotism , Long Live Euro- Atlantic civilization !

Crimea was part of Ukraine. Now it is part of Rus[…]

Florida Bans CRT in Schools

It fosters a racist attitude against the hiring o[…]

RIP John McAfee....

Is there no justice in this world?!? Now he’ll nev[…]

You don't understand. The thing we need to be ang[…]