- 07 May 2021 15:38
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@Fasces wrote:
Ay Fasces, I have made threads about Puerto Rican politics and history and many things. But unfortunately, no one studies it in the mainland and they spout sheer lies all the time and believe the propaganda.
Tucker Carlson is a classic example of willful ignorance about PR.
People think that many developments on the island are about the people's will when in the US court systems it is specifically documented as undemocratic and it says so. Do people read these things? No. If the USA doesn't give democracy to islands in their unincorporated territories but wants to use the excuse of defending democracy for Taiwan? It rings false. But the intelligent thing to do is admit what the true motivations are for these nations like the PRC and the USA are about trying to defend their interests in the Pacific and the island chain trade routes. The USA gov't doesn't care about democracy. That is a big lie.
Is multi polarity important as a world emerging after the old Cold War? A good topic for a future thread.
I got interested in Chinese and specifically Taiwanese history in college and took a course. My professor was Dr. Wei. A Taiwanese man and scholar. It is interesting.
Why aren't there more people interested in taking these electives if they are from my background? Because it is all about feeding people propaganda about what is the 'moral' thing. The moral thing is to study a nation's history, language and political events so that you can barely start the process of understanding the complexities of that culture. Otherwise you believe a bunch of trash generated by some news that a wealthy industrialist owns and has invested in the trade routes that the USA is protecting with bullshit about Chinese realities that are kind of simplistic and twisted.
Rossello was removed for massive corruption and laughing about shooting the mayor of San Juan in the head.
Rossello is the statehood party and they SUCK. This is why:
Independence is growing @Fasces but if we do get to be the majority the USA will or might deny it. Why? Bankers who want to own us without our consent to govern ourselves.
Then I am supposed to think the USA government is into democratic rights? When even that conservative ex-governor ousted for mass corruption thinks the USA is hypocritical?
I don't believe the excuse that the USA wants to fight for democracy. It flies in the face of its own behavior in the Caribbean, Latin America, Philippines, etc. they don't care about that. They care about MONEY and geopolitical military positions.
The fundamental problem with these discussions is that most of you have all your knowledge of China filtered through and adjusted to fit a particular worldview. None of you show the slightest interest in trying to access Chinese news sources, Chinese social media, or engaging with Chinese citizens on any real level. You acknowledge the ignorance of others when it comes to trying to understand your culture or your people's worldview, when they don't speak Greek or Spanish or demonstrate a basic comprehension of your history, culture or religion, but turn around and talk with such a basic, fundamental level of ignorance about what China actually is, rather than what it is portrayed as, that it is hard to meaningfully engage with it. It's like listening to Tucker Carlson talk about Puerto Rican culture or politics. China and Chinese society have loads of problems, but you guys don't even know what they are, and any attempt to point this out is dismissed.
Ay Fasces, I have made threads about Puerto Rican politics and history and many things. But unfortunately, no one studies it in the mainland and they spout sheer lies all the time and believe the propaganda.
Tucker Carlson is a classic example of willful ignorance about PR.
People think that many developments on the island are about the people's will when in the US court systems it is specifically documented as undemocratic and it says so. Do people read these things? No. If the USA doesn't give democracy to islands in their unincorporated territories but wants to use the excuse of defending democracy for Taiwan? It rings false. But the intelligent thing to do is admit what the true motivations are for these nations like the PRC and the USA are about trying to defend their interests in the Pacific and the island chain trade routes. The USA gov't doesn't care about democracy. That is a big lie.
Is multi polarity important as a world emerging after the old Cold War? A good topic for a future thread.
I got interested in Chinese and specifically Taiwanese history in college and took a course. My professor was Dr. Wei. A Taiwanese man and scholar. It is interesting.
Why aren't there more people interested in taking these electives if they are from my background? Because it is all about feeding people propaganda about what is the 'moral' thing. The moral thing is to study a nation's history, language and political events so that you can barely start the process of understanding the complexities of that culture. Otherwise you believe a bunch of trash generated by some news that a wealthy industrialist owns and has invested in the trade routes that the USA is protecting with bullshit about Chinese realities that are kind of simplistic and twisted.
Rossello was removed for massive corruption and laughing about shooting the mayor of San Juan in the head.
Rossello is the statehood party and they SUCK. This is why:
Independence is growing @Fasces but if we do get to be the majority the USA will or might deny it. Why? Bankers who want to own us without our consent to govern ourselves.
Then I am supposed to think the USA government is into democratic rights? When even that conservative ex-governor ousted for mass corruption thinks the USA is hypocritical?
I don't believe the excuse that the USA wants to fight for democracy. It flies in the face of its own behavior in the Caribbean, Latin America, Philippines, etc. they don't care about that. They care about MONEY and geopolitical military positions.
La historia de mi amor
se pudiera encontrar
en cada corazón,
en cada soledad.
Silvio Rodriguez
se pudiera encontrar
en cada corazón,
en cada soledad.
Silvio Rodriguez