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With regard to Israel I'm being flippant, but Israel exists at our convenience and as our president said, "If Israel did not exist we would have to invent it." Is Israeli policy directly controlled by the US government? No. Does it nearly perfectly serve US interests in the region and receive more support than some of our own citizens? Yes.
Well,- yes....and no.
No, Israel no longer exists at US convenience. It did however existed at US convenience before, give or take 1975.
Let's not worry too much about this point, as it deserves a thread of its own. Suffice to say that there is absolutely no scenario that one can envision, whereby United States will hang Israel out to dry, regardless of the nature of US administration.
The utility of Israel, as it relates to United States, is so intertwined with US interests, that it cannot be separated at this point.
Short of USA going totally communist or totally fascist, Israel and United States will continue to swim in the same direction. Therefore, it is totally illogical too say that Israel exists at US convenience. It is, at this point, it's symbiotic relationship.
Finally, the financial support that Israel gets from United States is a function of United States interests in the region. It has absolutely nothing to do with economic needs or requirements of Israel.
One, of course, never says no to a free money, but, at this time, this free money no longer matters. There are other reasons for Israel to get this money, and those reasons have nothing to do with Israel. Again it's a topic for another thread.
You quoted a US president. Indeed it supports what I'm saying. United States needs a country like Israel in the Middle East. However, if this country is simply a client State, then US interests will never be served as United States requires. Anything stronger than the Client State, and the country in question, Israel in this case, is no longer a client state.
Hezbollah became stronger and more powerful after the Israeli invasion. The pretense of the Lebanese government serving the interests of the people of Lebanon collapsed after Hezbollah was the power that fed, housed, and rebuilt after Israeli's destruction of civilian infrastructure. Whatever Israel's stated goals were, they left with a more entrenched and more powerful Hezbollah than when they invaded.
You are completely wrong here. You are referring to a conflict of 2006. A strategic decision was made at the time to use Air Force as a primary offensive weapon against Hesbolah. Air Force general was put in charge. It is a common knowledge that Air Force alone can never accomplish the goals of the campaign. Yet, the decision was made in that direction. Very limited ground offensive took place. Don't you think there was a reason for it?
Indeed there was a reason, but it was never stated, and not a single information agency ever talked about it as far as I remember.
Everybody only focused on the failure of of Israel to dislodge Hesbolah.
Let me tell you this, - if decision was made to indeed get rid of Hesbolah, that tasks would be accomplished within 3 to 6 hours from the beginning of the campaign. We are talking 2006, not 1982 here.
Hesbolah knows this, which is why, if you assess it's strategic disposition, Hesbolah behaves the way it does - talking a lot and doing little.
Hesbolah serves several Israeli interests, much like Hamas does. Their collective end will come when those interests are no longer relevant. This is, as Mr. Kissinger uptly coined,- 'realpolitic'.
Finally, it is extremely short-sighted to assess the campaign that Israel fought against Hesbolah back in 2006 as a failure of Israel.
On the surface, Israel did not accomplish the campaign goals, but then again, nobody ever stated what those goals really were. You are simply repeating what you heard on CNN from armchair generals.
Much the same logic can be and must be applied when one looks at wars with Hamas. Those are targeted, I would even say measured actions. Again, Hamas knows that they will be defeated within 3 to 6 hours if need ever arises.
The consequences of the serious military actions against Hesbolah or Hamas would be nothing less than catastrophic.
Today in 2021, there is absolutely no doubt about this, and there is no argument that can exists to contravene it.
Again - our allies - who we coordinate with and provide plenty of resources and war material have an incentive to buy our newest gadget whether they are worth the price or not. International arms deals are just as corrupt and plagued by special interests and lobbying groups as our domestic contractors are. The F35 is projected to cost about as much as the annual military spending of every military in the world and continues to be plagued with "must-fix" problems that continue to raise that cost. Maybe the F35 will function to some purpose eventually, but there is no way it's worth that price. There are other planes that serve the purposes for which the F35 was designed better and cost far less. The only people who make out on the project are Lockheed Martin.
I understand what you're saying, believe me I do. I can sympathize with your sentiments that F35 is outrageously expensive and there is a smell of conspiracy behind its creation.
It is quite possible that there are those elements at play. But in the end, it turned out to be a remarkable aircraft, which is, in many experts opinions, is worth the price and the effort. It is definitely a plane that Israel needs.
Once it's armaments and tactics are finalized, Israel will get an unstoppable weapon, with a recall option. Much of those tactics and weapons are uniquely Israeli. This weapon will serve political goals of Israel for the next 20 years.
Rumor has it that this aircraft operates all over the Middle East today and nobody sees enough of it to get a missile track. Absolute truth of course is not known.
Is it worth the money or the conspiracy? For Israel it is inequivocally yes. For United States it may be another matter.
edit: I don't know why I'm arguing with you dude. We aren't being graded on this I just wanted to laugh about a dumb plane.
I am not really arguing with you, - we are having a conversation. I actually do agree with a lot of what you're saying. All I'm doing is providing a slightly different focus.
All the best.