Rugoz wrote:I found a third paper/book, again with the same conclusion, and I'm not only selectively posting stuff here.
You still only repeat someone else's opinion and not any facts. The entire blockquote is the same razor-thin US apologia that allegedly "the US was caught by surprise", the author himself is even telling you that he is merely re-iterating the official US apologies from the time the US was publicly accused by the elected Greek government that suffered the Coup. You are repeating the same worthless opinion like a broken record while admitting that all these facts are true:
The organization responsible for the Coup was an
official branch of the CIA, the dictator an
official employee of the CIA for 15 years, the coup took place under a NATO plan and the regime enjoyed the full support of the US. The very same regime removed the 20k Greek army from Cyprus and then instigated a coup against the Greek President of Cyprus without an army to see it through resulting to the Turkish invasion as a guarantor which was then extended to an occupation.
While the whole thing had started with Johnson trying to impose his own solution for Cyprus and the Greeks rejecting his plan, to then be openly threatened with a coup that was eventually carried out
by a CIA employee.
To that you say: "a redacted telegram by the US apologist who used the exact same argument to deny culpability at the time" makes you believe that "the US had nothing to do with it".
And now you have added: "some Greek colonels were allegedly(without even bother to show us how upset) upset they did not receive even more support than the massive support they did receive from the US". If they were upset indeed(even that remains to be seen) they would have been upset
since they had been given guarantees & assurances.
The dictator being an official CIA employee for 15 years, a mere coincidence in your opinion, that "does not really mean anything".
You are under the wrong assumption that psychoanalysis opinions, are capable to counter facts. Unfortunately for you, that is not actually possible.
If you want to make an argument using declassified documents, then bring the conversations
the CIA had with her own employee, the Greek dictator. Everything else is irrelevant. If not possible, then you would have to admit that declassification is
selective and that evidently, an onion has got plenty of layers.
The Greek intelligence service, KYP, as we have seen, was created by the OSS/CIA in the course of the civil war, with hundreds of its officers receiving training in the United States. One of these men, George Papadopoulos, was the leader of the junta that seized power in 1967. Andreas Papandreou found that the KYP routinely bugged ministerial conversations and turned the data over to the CIA. (Many Western intelligence agencies have long provided the CIA with information about their own government and citizens, and the CIA has reciprocated on occasion. The nature of much of this information has been such that if a private citizen were to pass it to a foreign power he could be charged with treason.)
As a result of his discovery, the younger Papandreou dismissed the two top KYP men and replaced them with reliable officers. The new director was ordered to protect the cabinet from surveillance. "He came back apologetically," recalls Papandreou, "to say he couldn't do it. All the equipment was American, controlled by the CIA or Greeks under CIA supervision. There was no kind of distinction between the two services. They duplicated functions in a counterpart relationship. In effect, they were a single agency." [14]
Andreas Papandreou's order to abolish the bugging of the cabinet inspired the Deputy Chief of Mission of the US Embassy, Norbert Anshutz (or Anschuetz), to visit him.
Anshutz, who has been linked to the CIA, demanded that Papandreou rescind the order. Andreas demanded that the American leave his office, which he did, but not before warning that "there would be consequences". [15]
Papandreou then requested that a thorough search be made of his home and office for electronic devices by the new KYP deputy director. "It wasn't until much later," says Andreas, "that we discovered he'd simply planted a lot of new bugs. Lo and behold, we'd brought in another American-paid operative as our No. 2." [16]
An endeavor by Andreas to end the practice of KYP's funds coming directly from the CIA without passing through any Greek ministry also met with failure, but he did succeed in transferring the man who had been liaison between the two agencies for several years. This was George Papadopoulos. The change in his position, however, appears to have amounted to little more than a formality, for the organization still took orders from him; even afterwards, Greek "opposition politicians who sought the ear (or the purse) of James Potts, CIA [deputy] chief in Athens before the coup, were often told: 'See George -- he's my boy'."
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