Pants-of-dog wrote:Then show that this is actually happening.
OH, POD, you are so naive! Watch the video!
Note, how happy all kids were at the onset and how uncomfortable they were at the end.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:Then show that this is actually happening.
1. I asked for evidence that this is happening in the USA. You showed a video of a gym class in England. England is not in the USA.
2. No one is being told they are the oppressor or the oppressed. This is just an exercise to show what it means to live with (or without) racism on a daily basis.
3.Since you feel that kids have a right to not be offended, you should support every kid that complains of racism. Since you do not, why are you only supporting the white kids this time?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Again, teachers are allowed to choose which books are on a curriculum. This is not censorship. If some teachers decided to change curricula like this, it would simply be another day in North America, since this is quite common.
Yes, that is relevant, since you are trying to argue that both sides are trying to indoctrinate kids, and this is not true.
No, it is not indoctrination by the state since it is only one teacher who has no state power, while it is legislators, governors and AGs who are using state power to shut down any dissent about race in schools.
wat0n wrote:You tell me. Is it true that standpoint theory was initially based from a loose Marxist idea? At least Britannica seems to claim so ("Standpoint theory, a feminist theoretical perspective that argues that knowledge stems from social position. The perspective denies that traditional science is objective and suggests that research and theory have ignored and marginalized women and feminist ways of thinking. The theory emerged from the Marxist argument that people from an oppressed class have special access to knowledge that is not available to those from a privileged class. In the 1970s feminist writers inspired by that Marxist insight began to examine how inequalities between men and women influence knowledge production. Their work is related to epistemology, the branch of philosophy that examines the nature and origins of knowledge, and stresses that knowledge is always socially situated. In societies stratified by gender and other categories, such as race and class, one’s social positions shape what one can know").
Is it true standpoint epistemology is not quite in agreement with the scientific method? Again, the article would suggest so too ("Standpoint theorists also question objective empiricism—the idea that science can be objective through rigorous methodology. For instance, Harding stated that scientists have ignored their own androcentric and sexist research methods and results, despite their claims of neutrality, and that recognizing the standpoint of knowledge-producers makes people more aware of the power inherent in positions of scientific authority. According to standpoint theorists, when one starts from the perspective of women or other marginalized people, one is more likely to acknowledge the importance of standpoint and to create knowledge that is embodied, self-critical, and coherent").
MadMonk wrote:I'm sorry, what now?
European Empires back in the day 'led the fight' of whatever gave them as much power as possible in order to defeat each other for supremacy. Granted that was pretty much what everyone did, Europeans just became the greatest killing machines since the Mongol Empire.
Check out King Leopold II and the Congo Free State. Fighting hard for Black Liberation!
Objectives. To estimate the risk of mortality from police homicide by race/ethnicity and place in the United States.
Methods. We used novel data on police-involved fatalities and Bayesian models to estimate mortality risk for Black, Latino, and White men for all US counties by Census division and metropolitan area type.
Results. Police kill, on average, 2.8 men per day. Police were responsible for about 8% of all homicides with adult male victims between 2012 and 2018. Black men’s mortality risk is between 1.9 and 2.4 deaths per 100 000 per year, Latino risk is between 0.8 and 1.2, and White risk is between 0.6 and 0.7.
Conclusions. Police homicide risk is higher than suggested by official data. Black and Latino men are at higher risk for death than are White men, and these disparities vary markedly across place.
Public Health Implications. Homicide reduction efforts should consider interventions to reduce the use of lethal force by police. Efforts to address unequal police violence should target places with high mortality risk.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0229686
On average, there were large racial/ethnic inequities in the rates at which White and Black people were killed during police contact. Across all MSAs, Black people were 3.23 times more likely to be killed compared to White people (95% CI: 2.95, 3.54, p<0.001). Latinx people were 1.05 times more likely, though this IRR was not statically significant (95% CI: 0.94, 1.17, p = 0.40).
There are also voted ID laws, stop and frisk policies, disparities in sentencing for equal crimes, drug use convictions, and other examples.
late wrote:"Virtually all school districts insist they are not teaching critical race theory, but many activists and parents have begun using it as a catch-all term to refer to what schools often call equity programs, teaching about racism or LGBTQ-inclusive policies.
IOW, they can make make things worse, and make a buck doing it. There is no sense of governance here, just White Supremacy rearing it's ugly head, and making a buck off the chaos it creates, of course..
No again.. that is NOT 'in other words'. That is YOUR interpretation of events..
and a rather counterintuitive one it is too.
Julian658 wrote:The UK, USA, Canada, etc. ——— they are Western nations and they equally promote victimhood. Note how the POC kids feel like crap. This is done on purpose by the adults. In this way the POC kids become militant and embrace the role of the noble victim. The white kids feel bad and they may adopt the philosophy of white guilt. Frankly, it is nauseating .
Unthinking Majority wrote:I didn't say it's censorship, I said it's propaganda. You're arguing against the definition of "censorship", which is a strawman, I'm not saying it's censorship.
We both know you would have a problem with a teacher trying to turn your kid into a Trumpster, as would I. I have no problem with teachers choosing what books to have in class if it's for educational purposes in good faith, but I have a problem if the intent is to instill a particular political agenda in their students that matches the teachers.
Public school teachers are public servants paid by tax payers, a teacher is an agent of the government just as a cop is. They need to follow the rules of their boards, some of that comes from the government. The rule should be: no politicization, no moralizing. A cop shouldn't have political bumper stickers on their squad cars either, even if they did it themselves and not the department. They're neutral, apolitical agents and can't be seen as as partisan etc in the conduct of their duties.
Gardener wrote:Nice try Pants of Dog, but no cigar. That study does NOT put this down to black (or latino, for that matter) oppression. For example, there is no analysis to see whether Black Men had less favourable (and more frequent) interactions because they where more aggressive in their interactions with police ? (and committed more criminal activtiy) ?
This is an aspect of society that Critical Race Hypothesists refuse to even consider, as it destroys their marxist agenda.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Yeah, the way kids of colour get mad at society because their society treats them like second class citizens is a thing. You would prefer that kids of colour just accept their role as second class citizens so that white kids do not have to know about racism.
Yes, racism is only one factor in success.
Good thing no one argued otherwise!
Julian658 wrote:POD, there are a lot of hurdles to success and discrimination is one of them.
Assume we eliminate discrimination. Do you think we will achieve equity among humans? Yes or no?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Did you mean “equality”?
It is nothing but brain washing
Julian658 wrote:Equity is the new buzz word of people in the extreme left. This picture will help you understand. The indirect message is equal outcomes which is an impossibility in many instances.
By the way I watched the video again about CRT in schools.
It is nothing but brain washing and the colored kids feel miserable at the end of the session. POC children should not be subjected to victimhood indoctrination.
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