wat0n wrote:Then US property rights are also an imperfect mechanism, hence the US has a systemic opposition to private property.
No, you have misunderstood.
It would be more correct to say that since US property laws are an imperfect mechanism, instances of infractions against these rights still occur and there still exists the very real possibility that the causes of said infractions are systemic.
The legislators passed the laws with the goal of allowing or encouraging discrimination.
Are you saying that the individual legislators intentionally acted against the interests of BIPOC people?
I did not claim that, I said their claims are not in fact nuanced. The evidence can be seen by their reliance on narratives and standpoint epistemology.
If your only evidence is your incorrect idea about another aspect of CRT, this argument is unconvincing.
Gardener wrote:The thing you said was "...The current culture war against CRT seems to be a backlash against all the gains made by anti-racism activists in the wake of the murder of Mr. George Floyd..."
The implication in that sentence is that the George Floyd murder had a racist implication. However, this was not indicated by either the prosecutor, the reported witness statements, or the media. So why make the implication ? Or do you just assume - in line with CRitical Race Hypothesis teaching - that EVERYTHING is racist ?
I was discussing systemic racism.
Would you like me to define that for you?
Gardener wrote: .. which are not racist ?
Actually, they are.
There is no such ban ? There MAY be a ban on teaching Critical Race Hypothesis, but then that teaches a call to activism rather than being a pure hypothesis. It is also an unproven hypothesis - and a corrosive one to boot - why SHOULD it be promoted in schools ?
Hey.. I know.. why don't we teach White Replacement Theory, or Flat Earth Theory, or Scientology in schools ?
There is such a ban. There is even a thread about it.
Drlee wrote:I cannot think of very many things that would be so dispiriting to a young black person than to teach them that the world in which they live conspires to keep them down.
Since the vast majority of black children learn this (i.e. the world in which they live conspires to keep them down) from simply existing in modern society, imaginary CRT classes are not going to be making BIPOC kids sad.
In fact, this argument seems to imply that BIPOC kids are not smart enough to see the racism in the real world, and only believe the world is racist because other people told them it was and they accepted that uncritically.
CRT is a broad brush approach. Perhaps, just perhaps, it is possible for an exceptional teacher to craft a series of classes about the theory that were not soul crushing for the black students attending but it would be a very special teacher indeed. Now imagine an average, white, BA prepared civics teacher/JV football coach who has spent his life in rural Florida teaching the class. What a terrifying thought.
Since CRT is not taught at the elementary or secondary level, this is not a real worry.
Fabricated fears are not a good justification for censorship of teachers.
It is important to prepare students for the future. Including untested and highly controversial social theories, and then having the lesson plan constructed by someone who knows little about it and may well be offended by it is preposterous. Or how about asking the honest big city history teacher to represent the 1619 project to students all the while knowing that most of the country's most esteemed historians have condemned its inaccuracies.
Please list the inaccuracies. Thank you.
I am all about depth in education. But dealing with this kind of subject is WAY above the capabilities of most rank and file K-12 teachers. So start there.
CRT is a legal theory taught primarily to BIPOC law students. It was never being taught to K-12 students.
This is one of the reasons this is a Trojan horse, and the real impact is to ban classroom discussions about systemic racism.