BREAKING: Ukraine to join NATO as Zelenskyy welcomes statement. End of Juchi Moscow ulus imperialism - Page 3 - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...

Talk about what you've seen in the news today.

Moderator: PoFo Today's News Mods

#15177873
JohnRawls wrote:NATO exists to secure militarily the countries that are part of NATO

So far NATO only waged illegal wars(without UN mandate or any kind of self-defense argument) against other (small and weak) states like former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and so on.

It remains to be seen how apt it is at protecting its members if it really gets attacked by a strong military.
#15177880
ccdan wrote:So far NATO only waged illegal wars(without UN mandate or any kind of self-defense argument) against other (small and weak) states like former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and so on.

It remains to be seen how apt it is at protecting its members if it really gets attacked by a strong military.

Ivan you are drunk again, go back to your cave . how many Chechens you killed in 2 last wars ?
#15177889
ccdan wrote:So far NATO only waged illegal wars(without UN mandate or any kind of self-defense argument) against other (small and weak) states like former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and so on.

It remains to be seen how apt it is at protecting its members if it really gets attacked by a strong military.


All Nato operations have been approved by the UN security council:
1) Yugoslavia: https://www.nato.int/ifor/un/un-resol.htm
2) Afghanistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ution_1378
3) Libya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ution_1970

Although i don't particularly like this bundling of everything under one banner since Afghanistan was basically a US non-Nato operations which later morphed in to a NATO operation.
Afghanistan was basically US operations while Lybia was French and Yugoslavia was central European/German/French.

Long story short, nobody has dared to attack a NATO state yet so it fulfils its purpose outstandingly. If there is a need to resolve conflicts threatening NATO members then NATO might act but not always. NATO didn't intervene at start of the Yugoslavian civil war but that was a mistake and lead to a colossal loss of life in Yugoslavia. The 2nd time around though, NATO did take action. Afganistan was US reaction to 9/11 while Lybia was viewed in a similar manner as Yugoslavia back in 2011 along with the context of Arab spring.
#15177921
JohnRawls wrote:All Nato operations have been approved by the UN security council:
1) Yugoslavia: https://www.nato.int/ifor/un/un-resol.htm
2) Afghanistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ution_1378
3) Libya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... ution_1970

TOTALLY FALSE!

Not a single one of those is an approval of military action against a state!

Just "condemnations" and other irrelevant stuff.

Long story short, nobody has dared to attack a NATO state yet so it fulfils its purpose outstandingly

Nobody had the interest to attack NATO.
But things may change, as NATO, post Cold War, turned into a murderous criminal organization hell bent on waging all kinds of illegal wars - mainly at the request/desire of the US. Many nations are fed up with NATO. Even NATO itself isn't feeling very well. Lots of Europeans are fed up with what Americans are doing around Europe. They will be asked to go home sooner or later. The supposed rivalry between Europe and Russia is largely a fictive state of affairs invented and promoted by the Americans - and many Europeans know that!
#15178090
ccdan wrote:TOTALLY FALSE!

Not a single one of those is an approval of military action against a state!

Just "condemnations" and other irrelevant stuff.


Nobody had the interest to attack NATO.
But things may change, as NATO, post Cold War, turned into a murderous criminal organization hell bent on waging all kinds of illegal wars - mainly at the request/desire of the US. Many nations are fed up with NATO. Even NATO itself isn't feeling very well. Lots of Europeans are fed up with what Americans are doing around Europe. They will be asked to go home sooner or later. The supposed rivalry between Europe and Russia is largely a fictive state of affairs invented and promoted by the Americans - and many Europeans know that!


Yes, nobody has an interest of attacking the best armed and equipped military alliance in the world and that is the whole point because it is suicide.

As for your propaganda and claims of it being false, you clearly have no real understanding how NATO actually works.

1) Yugoslavia has many resolution that permitted both the military actions and the peacekeepers.
2) Afghanistan has the peace keeping resolution that NATO uses.
3) Libya obviously had the no fly zone resolution that was used to permit the air strikes and grounding of Qadaffis airforce.

Reality is that, there is no way anybody can realistically even attempt to fight NATO and its important allies. So calling it sick, is just outright stupidity. It has fulfilled its duty with 100% efficiency considering that no NATO members has ever had a war on its territory.

Demand? Or else...what? What is it you will do […]

A Few Tools for Your Computer

Bitdefender traditional signature based anti-malwa[…]

Is Marxism old-fashioned?

You miss the point. The question is, does he dese[…]

I don't know what the "foreign affairs es[…]