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Did You Get The Jab?

Yes.
49
79%
No, but I will.
2
3%
No, but I will if required.
1
2%
No, and I never will. Fuck off.
7
11%
Other.
3
5%
#15183737
colliric wrote:
Godstud and the pro-vax no-choice nuts want it to be even worse for us democratically. They want to force us to take their stupid experimental vaccines with no choice and fucking compensation. PAY ME BITCH!

Let me get this straight, you want to extort payment for a vaccine designed to give you protection? :lol:
Next thing, colliric will be running around the mall with a gun pointed at his head demanding money otherwise he will shoot himself. :knife:
Darwin award incoming.
#15183738
If you think it will protect me, and help protect society if I take it. Then pay up.

And I still get to sue you if there's side effects.
By wat0n
#15183739
As I said, those who don't get vaccinated are simply assuming the risk. And if there was an excess demand of ICUs, then the vaccinated should get priority in accessing healthcare to the point that if it became necessary to disconnect an unvaccinated person from a ventilator to do so I'd have zero problem with doing just that.
#15183742
wat0n wrote:As I said, those who don't get vaccinated are simply assuming the risk. And if there was an excess demand of ICUs, then the vaccinated should get priority in accessing healthcare to the point that if it became necessary to disconnect an unvaccinated person from a ventilator to do so I'd have zero problem with doing just that.


Which totally doesn't make sense because in a highly vaccinated environment you should be expecting to have less demands on icus. Unless the Vaccines don't really work, or you just straight up want to deliberately open up too soon, overwhelm yourself and have to kill people.

Of course there could also be human mistakes concerning the person having been allergic to vaccines, being listed as Unvaccinated and you straight up killed them for a stupid idiotic reason, because you saw the word "unvaccinated". Lawsuit from family hopefully incoming.
#15183744
@colliric It's a vaccine! It's designed to protect you from a deadly disease. You making it out to be oppression is fucking nuts! :knife: :moron:

Doctors have insurance for idiots like you.
By wat0n
#15183746
colliric wrote:Which totally doesn't make sense because in a highly vaccinated environment you should be expecting to have less demands on icus. Unless the Vaccines don't really work, or you just straight up want to deliberately open up too soon, overwhelm yourself and have to kill people.


Not true. If too few people vaccinate, then ICUs can be overwhelmed by the unvaccinated - and a vaccinated person that needs a bed for whatever reason, including those that have nothing to do with COVID such as being involved in a car crash, should not be left without access to life-saving treatment as a result of the negligence of others.

colliric wrote:Of course there could also be human mistakes concerning the person having been allergic to vaccines, being listed as Unvaccinated and you straight up killed them for a stupid idiotic reason, because you saw the word "unvaccinated". Lawsuit from family hopefully incoming.


I can't believe I even need to state medical reasons to be unvaccinated are the only exception.
#15183747
Godstud wrote:@colliric It's a vaccine! It's designed to protect you from a deadly disease. You making it out to be oppression is fucking nuts! :knife: :moron:

Doctors have insurance for idiots like you.


He just said he'd straight up murder unvaccinated people. In a highly vaccinated population, you'd expect it to be less likely the ICU gets overwhelmed, so less likely to have to decide who lives and dies. Unless the vaccine isn't as effective at preventing hospitalisations as you guys are saying it is.

Also it is a fact that human errors occur, so his policy could also kill a person that wanted to be Vaccinated but for whatever reason couldn't be. That didn't get put on their record, which simply says "unvaccinated".

I can't believe I even need to state medical reasons to be unvaccinated are the only exception.


Human errors happen idiot. Lawyers have jobs for a reason.
Last edited by colliric on 03 Aug 2021 16:12, edited 1 time in total.
By wat0n
#15183749
Funny, because in Spain and Italy that's what hospitals did when their ICUs were overwhelmed - but instead of doing triage by vaccination status, they did so by age. Why would it be fairer to discharge an old vaccinated person than a young unvaccinated one with no medical reasons to be unvaccinated?
#15183752
wat0n wrote:Funny, because in Spain and Italy that's what hospitals did when their ICUs were overwhelmed - but instead of doing triage by vaccination status, they did so by age. Why would it be fairer to discharge an old vaccinated person than a young unvaccinated one with no medical reasons to be unvaccinated?


Why aren't you expecting the vaccines to lighten your load is the real question? Why aren't you expecting less patients? Do you know something about the Vaccines that we don't? Spain and Italy was pre-vaccine.

You're planning for the absolute slamming caused by Joe Biden stupidly pre-maturely opening everything up while the Delta is running around, aren't you? Tell the truth!
By wat0n
#15183756
colliric wrote:Why aren't you expecting the vaccines to lighten your load is the real question? Why aren't you expecting less patients? Do you know something about the Vaccines that we don't? Spain and Italy was pre-vaccine.

You're planning for the absolute slamming caused by Joe Biden stupidly pre-maturely opening everything up while the Delta is running around, aren't you? Tell the truth!


I am expecting them to do so. But for that to happen, people need to actually vaccinate.

If too few people get vaccinated and the ICUs collapse, how should beds be assigned?
#15183761
Pants-of-dog wrote:@colliric

Provide one good reason why people should not be vaccinated. One.


The big pharma company's former track record of criminal behaviour, lying about their test results and corruption. All of them, all of those companies. All of them have been involved in major scandals and been forced to pay in the recent past.

Seriously if you fully trust any of them, something's seriously wrong with you.
#15183763
colliric wrote:The big pharma company's former track record of criminal behaviour,


This is a bad reason.

It is bad because it is based solely on an ad hominem, and you do not even seem to know which company you are so angry at.

You cannot even provide evidence, apparently.
#15183764
colliric wrote:The big pharma company's former track record of criminal behaviour, lying about their test results and corruption. All of them, all of those companies. All of them have been involved in major scandals and been forced to pay in the recent past.

Seriously if you fully trust any of them, something's seriously wrong with you.


Big tobacco track record is just as bad.
Big oil not any better
Coca cola, not better
Johnson and Johnson produces about half of the shit you buy in the supermarket
Electronics manufacture's track records is also bad.

I guess you live alone in the woods, built your own house out of timber, hunt/grow your own food and dont have internet. Oh wait.. who is posting these nonsensical posts then?
#15183766
Pants-of-dog wrote:This is a bad reason.

It is bad because it is based solely on an ad hominem, and you do not even seem to know which company you are so angry at.

You cannot even provide evidence, apparently.


https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... ent/pfizer
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... nd-johnson
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... strazeneca

Also your country acted in a particularly selfish manner and hoarded all those shots:
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021 ... corruption

Africans suffer as a result and we got shafted with supply problems too.

So why should we ever trust you? Selfish dicks.
#15183770
colliric wrote:https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... nd-johnson
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... strazeneca


Is there some sort of argument attached to these?

Also your country acted in a particularly selfish manner and hoarded all those shots:
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021 ... corruption

Africans suffer as a result and we got shafted with supply problems too.


Yes, and I was one of the first to condemn this. If you are just discussing it now, then you are probably only doing so because it is convenient for you.

So why should we ever trust you? Selfish dicks.


Being rude to me is not an argument.

And you can distrust me as much as you want. Note that distrusting Canadians in general is also a really poor argument for not getting vaccinated.
#15183771
Pants-of-dog wrote:Is there some sort of argument attached to these?


Only a bad stupid one.

"Vaccines are experimental shit, but those that want to keep the vaccines for themselves are imperialistic assholes that don't want to give experimental shit to poor african countries"
#15183774
Indeed, there are a lot of bad faith arguments coming from the anti-vax crowd. It's largely because of their low intelligence and heavy reliance on emotions.
#15183793
colliric wrote:https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... nd-johnson
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst. ... strazeneca

Also your country acted in a particularly selfish manner and hoarded all those shots:
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021 ... corruption

Africans suffer as a result and we got shafted with supply problems too.

So why should we ever trust you? Selfish dicks.


So, what it is - a vaccine you don't want and demand to be paid to take, or a vaccine you do want and are butthurt that it wasn't sent to you fast enough? Or are you just throwing any old shit at the wall to see what sticks?
#15183794
Prosthetic Conscience wrote:throwing any old shit at the wall to see what sticks?



This.

The tactic these dumb asses use, is to create a volume of noise that ends up drowning out reason and confusing midwits (see midwit thread).
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