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#15191302
litwin wrote:a bunch of Moscow lies, "affected all of the USSR." why mortality rate was so high in Ukraine ?



It is not so much a secret genocide, it was rather open and everyone is aware of it. Most just don't understand how and why it happened.
#15191423
JohnRawls wrote:It is not so much a secret genocide, it was rather open and everyone is aware of it. Most just don't understand how and why it happened.

whats about my qestion ? " why mortality rate was so high in Ukraine ?
#15191438
litwin wrote:whats about my qestion ? " why mortality rate was so high in Ukraine ?


Because it is an agricultural region, all agricultural regions were disproportionally affected because it was intended to be so. You can't destroy the market if you don't confiscate all of the produce. Well at least almost all of it and prevent reselling.
#15191439
JohnRawls wrote:Because it is an agricultural region, all agricultural regions were disproportionally affected because it was intended to be so. You can't destroy the market if you don't confiscate all of the produce. Well at least almost all of it and prevent reselling.

TV.ru propaganda , do you agree that Moscow must pay for this crime?


#15191440
litwin wrote:TV.ru propaganda , do you agree that Moscow must pay for this crime?




I don't really watch your videos because you post too many of them.

But my general view on the subject is that Xolodomor needs to be recognised as a genocide and Russia as a main successor state of the USSR needs to apologise. As for paying money or doing anything else that is simply not realistic. Nobody is going to pay money for something that happened decades ago when the payment sum could go huge.
#15191444
JohnRawls wrote:I don't really watch your videos because you post too many of them.

But my general view on the subject is that Xolodomor needs to be recognised as a genocide and Russia as a main successor state of the USSR needs to apologise. As for paying money or doing anything else that is simply not realistic. Nobody is going to pay money for something that happened decades ago when the payment sum could go huge.



Moscow believe that rf is ussr, so we have to hold them responsible like ussr
As for paying money?? really ? Germany pays to Israel , Poles, Belarusians, etc. why Mongol - Moscow´d be treated different ? Moscow raped, killed, enslaved more people than G. National - Socialists
#15191445
litwin wrote:Moscow believe that rf is ussr, so we have to hold them responsible like ussr
As for paying money?? really ? Germany pays to Israel , Poles, Belarusians, etc. why Mongol - Moscow´d be treated different ? Moscow raped, killed, enslaved more people than G. National - Socialists


Germany paid nothing after the WW2.
#15191446
JohnRawls wrote:Germany paid nothing after the WW2.

Germany paid and paying , Why Moscow barbarians dont pay ?

Stalinist-era mass grave found in Ukraine, its time for Nuremberg for Marxists and Marxism in all forms and configurations!​
The remains of between 5,000 and 8,000 people were found in 29 graves in the southern city of Odessa.
The site, believed to date back to the late 1930s, was uncovered during exploration works for a planned expansion of an airport.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are believed to have died during Joseph Stalin's rule of the Soviet Union.
Sergiy Gutsalyuk, the head of the regional branch of Ukraine's National Memory Institute, told AFP that the victims were likely to have been killed by the Soviet secret police unit during the late 1930s."
#15191447
sorry, for using straight forward google translate :
"After World War II, the 10-million-strong Belarus lost about 3 million of its inhabitants, but about 2 million were killed even before the war by the communist NKVD. In Belarus, 70 percent of all Belarusian writers were physically destroyed, scientists and artists were killed. (The troupe of the Third Belarusian State Theater of Vladislav Golubok was arrested in full force. Almost all of them were shot.) They were killed on ethnic grounds. For this, the label "natsdem" was invented (it means - a national democrat, although such a party did not exist). This label was stuck to all Belarusians whom the Stalinists planned to destroy. In the depths of the NKVD, a non-existent anti-communist organization SVB ("Union of Liberation of Belarus") was invented. Under an invented phantom, the NKVADists carried out arrests, conducted an imaginary investigation, interrogated, tortured, tried, then exiled to Russia and shot innocent people. After the Riga Agreement in 1921, Belarus was divided between Poland and Russia. The division border was drawn not far from Mensk. There was a secret order from the NKVD to destroy the entire Belarusian population along the border. The Russian auxiliaries wanted to create a deserted area here. The destruction was carried out by the border troops. The trustees were given a rifle and a shovel. When such a border guard soldier met in a deserted place (on the road, in a field, in a forest) a lonely Belarusian or Belarusian, or a child, he would shoot a person, immediately dig a hole with a shovel and fill up the corpse.
That was the instruction. The people in the villages were not so afraid of the "man with the gun" as they were the soldier with the shovel. (These facts were published in the Belarusian press in the early 90s.) In the 30s, 95-99 percent (almost completely) was destroyed (exiled and shot) the Belarusian communist-party and Soviet administration. Even the directorate and business leaders were destroyed. Russians from Russia were sent to the posts of murdered administrators and communist leaders-Belarusians. Russians (the so-called "promoted") came to Belarus, occupied vacated positions, received benefits, property, apartments, and the first thing they did was to close Belarusian schools, translate them into Russian so that their children could study without burdening themselves with studying , as they said, “unnecessary” Belarusian language. Thus, the invaders created a "Russian-speaking population" in Belarus. Ethnocide, linguacide, mnemacid and genocide were carried out by the Bolsheviks at the same time.
The extermination of Belarusians by the Russian NKVD continued during the German augmentation as well. In June 1941, in the first days of the war, the communists shot thousands of prisoners in prisons and in stages. Only in the Brest Fortress, where there was a terrible NKVD prison, they did not have time to liquidate all those arrested, some of them fled. Meanwhile, a large group of NKVD overseers and functionaries were blocked in the fortress by the Germans. They sat there for about a month until they died out. About 20 years after the war, the communists came up with a legend about the "heroic defense" of the Brest Fortress.
#15191448
Attention is drawn to the fact that the broad Soviet partisan movement was organized only in Belarus and partially on the ethnic Belarusian lands that were part of Russia (Smolensk region, Bryansk region). There was no partisan movement in occupied Russia. Why? Because the plan for the destruction of the Belarusian nation continued to operate. Moscow, using the organs of the NKVD, dragged the masses of the Belarusian civilian population into the war against the Germans, and thereby exposed the Belarusians to the German attack.
The necessary work of the struggle proceeded from an insidious plan and was carried out by vile methods. (Stalin wanted to get a double benefit.) Enkavadists specifically killed a German near a Belarusian village or made another provocation in order to cause a punitive operation of the Nazis (who usually burned the whole village, most often together with people). Thus, by the way, as a result of a special provocation of the Soviet partisans, the famous Khatyn was also burned, which the communists later advertised to the whole world in the 70s as a typical victim of fascist atrocities.
As a result of this communist-fascist joint "work", more than 9 thousand villages were burned in Belarus. Moscow did not trust the Belarusians. Therefore, by the end of the war, as a result of a special operation of the NKVD, many Belarusian commanders were sent to death, removed from command, killed and repressed. Their places were taken by Russians sent from Muscovy and loyal NKVADists. In the summer of 1944, when the "Red Army" occupied Belarus, the Russians mobilized into the army on Belarusian territory. Tens of thousands of young Belarusian men, almost without preparation, were thrown into the front line of the front. Russian commanders raised them into unnecessary attacks under the fire of German machine guns, without even giving weapons in hand, or with rifles, but no cartridges. They died in thousands, like grass under a scythe. And those that fled back, fell under the bullets of the NKVD"
#15191455
litwin wrote:Germany paid and paying , Why Moscow barbarians dont pay ?

Stalinist-era mass grave found in Ukraine, its time for Nuremberg for Marxists and Marxism in all forms and configurations!​
The remains of between 5,000 and 8,000 people were found in 29 graves in the southern city of Odessa.
The site, believed to date back to the late 1930s, was uncovered during exploration works for a planned expansion of an airport.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are believed to have died during Joseph Stalin's rule of the Soviet Union.
Sergiy Gutsalyuk, the head of the regional branch of Ukraine's National Memory Institute, told AFP that the victims were likely to have been killed by the Soviet secret police unit during the late 1930s."


Germany paid nothing, it had 23 billion worth of machine tools and other stuff confiscated but that is it as a justification to move rocket technology and other interesting stuff like planes and their production equipment to USSR/US/UK. There were no real reparations so to speak.
#15191489
JohnRawls wrote:Germany paid nothing, it had 23 billion worth of machine tools and other stuff confiscated but that is it as a justification to move rocket technology and other interesting stuff like planes and their production equipment to USSR/US/UK. There were no real reparations so to speak.

the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family.

Reparations Agreement between Israel and the Federal .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparatio ... of_Germany
#15191490
Patrickov wrote:@litwin

One more thing: Calling the Muscovites as the "Mongols" is actually an insult to the Mongols.

Mongolia is more democratic than both its neighbours.


Mongols , in political - historical sense . a Genghisid empire, is too complicated term for the majority of forum readers

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#15191492
Igor Antunov wrote:Litwin is definitely a GPT-3 AI plugin. Not a real person. C for effort I guess.

Chechnya is a respectable republic under its great leader. Good for Chechnya.


Ivan , say Chechnya is cool ! :lol: such a slavish race )))

#15191500
litwin wrote: the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family.

Reparations Agreement between Israel and the Federal .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparatio ... of_Germany


Fine there were some minor payments but mostly nothing.
#15191504
JohnRawls wrote:Fine there were some minor payments but mostly nothing.

so you do agree that Moscow has make similar " minor payments" to Ukrainians ?
#15191610
Patrickov wrote:Good thing that we have no Mongol PoFo'ers around...

WRONG , ONE OF THE MANY memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=15657 Igor Antunov

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