Petrol Stations closed in the UK-Military to be drafted to deliver fuel - Page 2 - Politics Forum.org | PoFo

Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...

Talk about what you've seen in the news today.

Moderator: PoFo Today's News Mods

#15192158
JohnRawls wrote:You can hide behind Covid forever but it won't change the reality. I know that I have a massive boner lately when it comes to Brexit but it is simply because it is a situation of "I told you so".


Well you best do the "told you so" at the right things then otherwise you lack credibility and I find that annoying. Shortage of drivers...linked to Brexit. Inflation... Covid.
#15192164
Rugoz wrote:What matters is how the supply of one type of labor changes relative to the other. If you kick out foreigners equally in all industries that won't have any distributive effect, obviously. In the long term people will also change occupations to some degree.

Yeah, whatever... I wonder if others also have something to add.

#15192144
#15192201
@B0ycey

Given the abuse directed at foreigners following Brexit, I doubt they will be in a rush to solve your problems.

"Boris Johnson set for visa U-turn for 5,000 foreign truck drivers."

— Daily Mail


:)
#15192203
ingliz wrote:Given the abuse directed at foreigners following Brexit, I doubt they will be in a rush to solve your problems.

"Boris Johnson set for visa U-turn for 5,000 foreign truck drivers."


Money talks @ingliz. The question is will 5000 drivers be enough? Also, they don't have to be European. But sure, there is no guarantee people will leave their homes to come to the UK. But the government should have been doing what it is doing now four months ago in any case. Not because of this petrol issue which really was only an issue when Johnson opened his mouth. But because Christmas is coming around the corner and if we can't cope now then we are fucked in December.
#15192209
B0ycey wrote:Money talks

Given the tight margins in the haulage industry, where is the money coming from? A haulage firm specialising in chilled deliveries to Asda and Sainsbury's and lacking drivers went bust yesterday because they couldn't pay enough to poach drivers and still make a profit.


:)
#15192210
ingliz wrote:Given the tight margins in the haulage industry, where is the money coming from? A haulage firm specialising in chilled deliveries to Asda and Sainsbury's and lacking drivers went bust yesterday because they couldn't pay enough to poach drivers and make a profit.


It gets passed onto the consumer doesn't it. Haulage don't profit on their goods. They offer a service. The cost of that service depends on costs to them including wages. Besides, are you aware of the cost of shipping right now?

I would say this firm that went bust and something I haven't heard of and merely taking your word on it had other problems before this. This crisis is good, not bad for haulage FYI.
#15192213
B0ycey wrote:The cost of that service depends ...

on what contract price you can negotiate.

With the stranglehold imposed by the supermarket chains on hauliers, where the overriding principle is to drive prices as low as they can go, you're going to be in all sorts of trouble if there is any change in overhead.


:)
#15192214
ingliz wrote:on what contract price you can negotiate.


Well this firm was shit at negotiating then. Perhaps it was desperate for the contract at the time. The truth is haulage can now basically charge what they like and choose the contracts they can fulfil. If you think this is the end of haulage then you don't understand the sector nor have a clue on what is happening in shipping at the moment.

Being in logistics is good at the moment I can assure you.
#15192216
Beren wrote:I wonder if it's going to go European again in a decade or two. Or maybe not, because we're going to be allied with the Russians and the Chinese by then, partly due to Brexit.


I suspect Europe want better relations with Russia for their gas but won't bend over backwards for them. I doubt they will ever be close. There is too much resentment in Eastern Europe and Russia aren't interested in the "wokeness" EU project in any case. China on the other hand, I see a closer relationship here given China is basically trying to trade their way to hegemony. As for the UK, I do see them returning to the EU actually. But it is a couple of generations away. Macrons EU dream seem to have galvanised the Germans since the AUKUS clusterfuck and I don't think the UK will want to remain Airstrip One indefinitely when ultimately they are closer to Europe geopolitically and geographically and can have a seat playing empire again. Not to mention Brexit was a generation issue and the youth are the future.
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 8
"Whether we like it or not"

This is politics, not science, as you well know. […]

Did You Get Vaccinated?

Covid's not a flu, @Igor Antunov , you fucking mo[…]

Even our shoes are racist.

I will assume that you do not know what settler c[…]

This conservative decided to do an undercover vide[…]