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#15195024
A woman was raped on a train, and even though the rape happened pretty much in plain sight and out in the open, the other passengers on the train didn't help her.

One of the other passengers even stood around filming the sexual assault with his phone.

The incident happened October 13, 2021, at a little after 9:00pm.
This happened in Philadelphia, in the United States.

How could this happen?

Many of us cannot imagine how this could happen. Surely one of those passengers would have been willing to get help her or do something. No, apparently not.

The rape went on for 8 minutes.

Maybe the first thing we have to understand is where this happened. It was a big city area, people who have lived in a big city all their life.
Read up on the 1964 murder of Kitty Genovese in New York City and something in psychology that is called the "bystander effect". As Kitty Genovese was being brutally murdered right outside her apartment and screaming for help, there were 38 other people who saw or heard the murder taking place, but none of them did anything to help her or even bother calling the police.

In a big city with crowds of people, where most of the day to day faces are not recognizable, there is something called social alienation. People start feeling they have no social connections, surrounded by big crowds of people all the time they don't know. And they feel that it is someone else's job to take care of things. After all, in a crowd with so many other people, surely someone else will take care of the problem, or provide the help to someone who needs help. People don't want to be bothered helping someone or getting involved when there are so many other people around them. People just pretend not to notice and try to ignore the problem or walk away, if they can.

Then there is also the mentality of using force in these places. Using physical force and violence, even when it comes to self defense or assisting another person, is not looked upon as well as it is in more rural parts of the country. There's a common perception that it is the job of the police to handle that sort of thing. Trying to defend someone else could even get you in big legal trouble. Who would want to risk that to protect a stranger?

Philadelphia train rape: Riders who recorded Fiston Ngoy and didn't call 911 may be charged | MEAWW
https://meaww.com/philadelphia-train-ra ... be-charged


And here's the real clencher: The rape suspect is an illegal immigrant who came from the Congo.

Fiston Ngoy: Rape suspect on Philadelphia train is illegal Congolese immigrant | Daily Mail Online
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... grant.html

He had previously been convicted of "sex abuse" and jailed for 120 days, but was not deported. Even though he was illegally residing in the country.

from the article:

He pleaded guilty to the sex charge in 2017 in Washington DC and was sentenced to 120 days in jail, and was then placed in immigration detention in January 2018.
However, Ngoy was never deported, because an immigration judge granted him a 'withholding of removal' in March 2019, after an appeals board found that his sex crime was not a 'serious crime' that made him eligible for removal.

Describing police review of surveillance video, "We were watching to see if somebody put a phone up to their ear indicating they might be calling 911. Instead, what we saw was people holding their phone up as if they were recording or taking pictures."​


I know some of you in this forum have asked in the past why so many average middle class people in the US are reluctant to want to take public transportation. All sorts of stuff goes on like this in the US that almost never goes on in other First World countries.
#15195029
Puffer Fish wrote:As Kitty Genovese was being brutally murdered right outside her apartment and screaming for help, there were 38 other people who saw or heard the murder taking place, but none of them did anything to help her or even bother calling the police.

That's a myth. Multiple people called the police via the operator since the emergency number didn't exist back then. A police officer lied to a journalist about it, possibly trying to transfer attention from his failures to others, and the press lapped it up.
#15195086
AFAIK wrote:That's a myth. Multiple people called the police via the operator since the emergency number didn't exist back then. A police officer lied to a journalist about it, possibly trying to transfer attention from his failures to others, and the press lapped it up.

Well even if that's true, it's still true that none of those people came to her aide or were willing to provide any assistance.


Back to the main topic, Philadelphia is not the nicest place. A bit of a ghetto, some might say.
See the second video in this thread:
"Bad areas" in big US cities (videos)
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=180257&hilit=Philadelphia

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