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Rancid wrote:Even if it's an accident

There is an argument to be made that Baldwin knowing he was being handed a real gun should have checked it himself.

Be sure the gun is safe to operate.

— Third Rule of Gun Safety, NRA
#15196188
ingliz wrote:There is an argument to be made that Baldwin knowing he was being handed a real gun should have checked it himself.

Be sure the gun is safe to operate.

— Third Rule of Gun Safety, NRA


Sure, I don't believe that should make him criminally liable though. This is probably why they do not train the actors in anyway, so that they are not liable.... sounds weird but stuff like this is done all the time.
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ingliz wrote:There is an argument to be made that Baldwin knowing he was being handed a real gun should have checked it himself.

Be sure the gun is safe to operate.

— Third Rule of Gun Safety, NRA


That's not how prop guns work. It was an antique F.lli Pietta long Colt 45 revolver, and the bullet tips can be seen in close up shots on camera.

The rounds needed to have the primer and gunpowder removed, so the bullets looked real on camera but didn't work.

Baldwin actually had no way of checking this out for himself, he was told the gun was safe and the rounds were duds(different to blanks). They were rehearsing a close up shot of the gun.

Literally this armourer fucked up in almost the exact same way as in Brandon Lee's death.
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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was the rookie armorer in charge of weapons on the set of Baldwin’s “Rust” film when his prop gun fired last week, killing director of photography Halyna Hutchins. She said the gun was locked up in a safe in a prop truck during the lunch break and taken out shortly before the fatal scene lumplication, saying the gun appeared safe to her. No one has been arrested over the incident, but criminal charges have not yet been ruled out.

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According to a search warrant affidavit filed Wednesday, David Halls, the first assistant director on the set, told investigators that he should have inspected the weapon for live rounds before handing it to Baldwin, Variety reported.

The affidavit said: "David [Halls] advised when Hannah [Gutierrez-Reed] showed him the firearm before continuing rehearsal, he could only remember seeing three rounds.

"He advised he should have checked all of them, but didn't, and couldn't recall if she spun the drum," the affidavit read.

https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-p ... er-1643386
#15196205
colliric wrote:so the bullets looked real on-camera ...Baldwin had no way of checking this out for himself,

From what I've seen, theatrical props - the dummy inert rounds - don't have a headstamp; this would make them easily distinguishable from the commercial ammunition you can buy at your local Walmart to anybody who cared to look.
#15196209
ingliz wrote:From what I've seen, theatrical props - the dummy inert rounds - don't have a headstamp; this would make them easily distinguishable from the commercial ammunition you can buy at your local Walmart to anybody who cared to look.


Alec Baldwin probably wouldn't have known that because he hasn't actually done very many movies where he fires a gun. Literally this was his first ever western in his career, and the first action film in which he was to be the lead star for a long long time.

The whole point of having a armourer present is so that they can supervise the safe use of the firearm, because actors are usually not experienced in how to use them properly.

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