XogGyux wrote:Are you implying you are a big guy with a tiny bird's brain?
That is a weird brag bro.
Raptors are highly intelligent and adaptive.
Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet ...
Igor Antunov wrote:Raptors are highly intelligent and adaptive.
XogGyux wrote:And also extinct.
Potemkin wrote:Not quite; they left descendants in the form of birds. Who are also called raptors.
XogGyux wrote:That's like saying homo Erectus didn't go extinct because they left thousands of descendants that are also called homo .
It is not like being a chicken is any more prestigious than being an extinct dinosaur.
Potemkin wrote:Homo erectus did not go extinct, since we are their descendants. The concept of 'homo erectus' is a human abstraction, a label which we put on a complex reality which is less discontinuous and less neatly categorised than we would like. Cladistically speaking, we are homo erectus, just as birds are dinosaurs. A dinosaur can never give birth to anything which is not itself a dinosaur. At which generation did they stop being dinosaurs and become birds? There was no such generation.
XogGyux wrote:This is a ridiculous oversimplification. This is the sort of argument "young earth" fanatics throw up. At what time did a monkey gave birth to a human?
This logic implies my dead grandfather is alive because I am alive and i am a descendant of him...
There was a time there was no land animals... I guess that means we are all fish right?
Worse! Life began with single-celled organisms, so we must all be a single cell.
This is ridiculous.
XogGyux wrote:LOL. I'll keep that quote for my amusement.
XogGyux wrote:Says the guy trying to claim that extinct species are roaming around.
Potemkin wrote:If they left descendants, then how are they extinct, @XogGyux?
XogGyux wrote:The descendants are not the same species. Over millions of years, it diverged into a different species that is no longer the original. Sometimes they just go extinct. There are no T-rex walking around. And unless you think Homo erectus is hiding in the hollow earth alongside the lizard people waiting for the son of Kennedy to take power, I don't think how you can possibly challantly claim that H. erectus is still around.
Potemkin wrote:The species which we call 'homo erectus' gradually changed into the species which we call 'homo sapiens'. This is not extinction - as you pointed out, the T-Rex went extinct and left no descendants. Birds are descended from a different clade of dinosaurs, and that clade of dinosaurs did not go extinct. This is why textbooks now talk about "the non-avian dinosaurs" going extinct, and not the dinosaurs tout court.
XogGyux wrote:Congratulations. You watched Jurassic park.
However, your understanding is quite poor.
Just because you have speciation, does not mean that the original branch is "not extinct" because of a surviving modern version. H erectus is quite extinct.
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