Godstud wrote:@tomskunk The only guys not hiring women because of fear of the #MeToo movement are the ones who would suffer from it because they are pieces of shit. It's not causing partition or any such nonsense amongst those who wouldn't normally sexually assault/harass a woman in the first place.
If a man's uncomfortable being alone with a woman then it's because he's afraid he's been an asshole and it might come back to bite him in the ass. You can easily avoid impropriety by not being an asshole.
Falsely accused... Rubbish! The cases of false accusations of sexual assaults are actually as likely as the false accusation of ANY crime. It's blown out of proportion because some men want to continue to be sexual predators, and so they pretend that they are the victims. The only people having their careers ruined are the ones deserving of it!
If an employer doesn't hire a woman because of fear of the #MeToo movement, then that woman probably dodged a bullet.
I'll just throw it out there because fuck it, we are here to chat and shit, but (fuck, I don't want to name the year because time flies, but fuck it), back in 2008 I was working as a dishwasher at a pretty nice restaurant.
As a dishwasher, you get to sit in the back of the house and see all kinds of shit, but there was this one waitress, who maybe she'd been through shit, here nor there, but she seemed pretty hyper sensitive. Why do I say so? I heard her threaten one of the waiters with a sexual harassment claim, quite aggressively. I don't know why, and really I don't think it was necessary. There might have been a slight joke, which was probably not even about her. I knew the crew, and everyone was cool with each other, and she was just going off.
Subsequently, she got a different waiter fired, for a sexual harassment claim.
Funny thing was, I never got along with the guy, he was one of the few that I just didn't really see eye to eye with, but he was a good waiter, and I doubt he did anything wrong. It wasn't that kind of scene.
I actually ran into the guy in a bar a few days later. He was drunk as shit and upset. For once, we saw eye to eye, and chatted a little, and I gave him some condolences.
Is it possible the guy said something inappropriate? Yeah, it is possible, but I don't know that he did. I really doubt he pinched her ass or anything of the sort.
Like I said, as the dishwasher, I got to have a backseat to all of it, and I'd seen this chick call out another guy and threaten to do the same thing.
My real guess is she was hyper sensitive. Maybe she'd had some past trauma. Maybe she'd been indoctrinated with some shitty notions.
It wasn't a scene where a bunch of bad shit was going on, and the wait staff was too busy hustling to tables to have much time for a lot of banter, appropriate or not.
The worst thing I heard someone say in that place, was this (which is kinda funny, but was kinda awkward).
There was this fat dude that worked as a night auditor (and I eventually did too, and he trained me, and he was a really cool guy, and also very gay. He eventually transitioned to being a manager of the waitstaff).
The sue chef had long hair, his name was Brandon, and he was walking in the opposite direction, and one of the waitresses was calling for him for some reason, as if she couldn't see him. Someone said something like "he's right there", and she said "oh, I don't know him from behind."
To which the fat gay guy chimed in, "neither do I."
It's the sort of thing where, 'hey, no gay jokes if you are actually gay.'
But yeah, people have the ability to project their personal insecurities, with consequence, and women are no exception.
Having been there, I think that the woman got the man fired as an expression of her personal insecurities, and that sort of thing isn't right, and if you think that can't happen, you are very naive. Everything can happen, and everything does happen.
And that is not a nod to inappropriate behavior, much less sexual assault.