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'Cold war' communist versus capitalist ideological struggle (1946 - 1990) and everything else in the post World War II era (1946 onwards).
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#15200398
QatzelOk wrote:

This means that the unelected CIA (and its sponsors) was-is more powerful than the USA government.



If that was true, Cheney would not have been able to to dismember the CIA, to get more control of spook operations.

I understand your anger, but it's not a license to just make sh*t up.
#15200485
About the CIA being the real army for the real police (the banks), late wrote:If that was true, Cheney would not have been able to...

That Cheney was reported to do X, doesn't mean that the CIA doesn't control the USA through terrorism and lies.
#15200490
QatzelOk wrote:
That Cheney was reported to do X, doesn't mean that the CIA doesn't control the USA through terrorism and lies.



Sorry, kiddo, you've oversimplified things into a caricature.

There are several entities that hold the bulk of the power. Perhaps the worst is the Kochtopus..
#15200781
late wrote:Sorry, kiddo, you've oversimplified things into a caricature.

There are several entities that hold the bulk of the power. Perhaps the worst is the Kochtopus..

The CIA are there to ensure that entities like the Koch brothers ... thrive.

If it weren't for the CIA, the USA might be egalitarian and democratic.
#15200790
QatzelOk wrote:
The CIA are there to ensure that entities like the Koch brothers ... thrive.

If it weren't for the CIA, the USA might be egalitarian and democratic.



You're talking about the outside of the country, and in that regard, you would be mostly right.

You have the same dichotomy with oil. Outside the country, they kill leaders, install puppet governments, bribe, pay rebels, if it's nasty, they do it.

But inside the country, they can buy Congress.
#15200820
late wrote:You're talking about the outside of the country, and in that regard, you would be mostly right.

You have the same dichotomy with oil. Outside the country, they kill leaders, install puppet governments, bribe, pay rebels, if it's nasty, they do it.

But inside the country, they can buy Congress.

It's not a dichotomy. It's the same techniques, but applied differently domestically.

Buying congress and buying foreign dictators... is the same thing. And it shows the same lack of respect for the voters who are usurped in the process - as if they were brain-dead and submissive (MK- Ultra-ed).
#15200953
late wrote:But, odds are, it was just a nut that set things in motion.

Indeed, just a lone nut who had in his possession some magic bullets.

That's why they were parading Oswald all over town, in the open, so that he was able to be shot, what it is they were doing, is they were trying to force him to lead them to where the magic bullets were hidden.
#15200967
QatzelOk wrote:The CIA are there to ensure that entities like the Koch brothers ... thrive.

If it weren't for the CIA, the USA might be egalitarian and democratic.

Well if the purpose of the CIA is prevent egalitarianism then it must be said it hasn't done a very good. In 1947 when the CIA was created it would be unthinkable for someone of Obama's racial characterisation to become President. Hell in 1947 its extremely doubtful that even a Catholic like JFK could have become President.
#15200980
Crantag wrote:
Indeed, just a lone nut who had in his possession some magic bullets.

That's why they were parading Oswald all over town, in the open, so that he was able to be shot, what it is they were doing, is they were trying to force him to lead them to where the magic bullets were hidden.



Back in the real world, serious people need facts, and that's a commodity in short supply, in this case.

The facts we do have point to an emotionally unsatisfying story. One of the hardest things to do is walk away from good stories when the facts aren't there to support them.

But it can be done.
#15201041
late wrote:Back in the real world, serious people need facts, and that's a commodity in short supply, in this case.

The facts we do have point to an emotionally unsatisfying story. One of the hardest things to do is walk away from good stories when the facts aren't there to support them.

But it can be done.

I'm calling a healthy hep of bullshit.

I just turned on JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass. Give it a watch.
#15201092
Crantag wrote:
I'm calling a healthy hep of bullshit.

I just turned on JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass. Give it a watch.



That's called projection.

Still have a lot more questions than answers...
#15201124
Rich wrote:Well if the purpose of the CIA is prevent egalitarianism then it must be said it hasn't done a very good. In 1947 when the CIA was created it would be unthinkable for someone of Obama's racial characterisation to become President. Hell in 1947 its extremely doubtful that even a Catholic like JFK could have become President.

After killing all the civil rights champions of the 60s, the powers-that-beTM went after African-American men in general as a perma-scapegoat for economic or social problems.

Result: a much higher rate of incarceration of black Americans today than when Malcolm X was alive and complaining about inequality.

The CIA made sure the USA stayed socially backwards, and then it went on to help the Pentagon plunder egalitarianism all over the world.

They are the brains of the Fabulous WestTM military-industrial-complex, in partnership with the Pentagon and the Uber-rich. No democracy gets to see the light of day with these mega-controlling tyrannical monopolies.

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