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#15200412
Appeals court judges skeptical of Trump's arguments for blocking release of his January 6 documents

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/politics ... index.html


Trump called aides hours before Capitol riot to discuss how to stop Biden victory

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... riot-biden


Trump reportedly personally urged allies to stop Biden's certification hours before Jan. 6 riot

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly ... 29034.html


Trump tried to stop Congress affirming Biden victory on Jan 6: report

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-t ... -6-2021-11
#15200620
SpecialOlympian wrote:



BY AGENT ELIAS:

Q. Danny, did you feel like you were the three percent here? Like, those people that stormed the Capitol, that those were patriots. Those were people who are doing that because they were the three percent that were going to free our country from fraudulent politicians and schemes of evil people, so that way we could have a republic that was going to be whole again. Is that what you thought?

A. (Nods head.)

Q. You thought you were that three percent guy.

A. (Crying.)



I blame Plato. (grin)



The concept of the philosopher king is [...] the idea that those who possess a certain level of knowledge or wisdom should rule over those who do not.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher_king
#15200847
Rich wrote:
Trump is a bloody genius. And he's incredibly brave as well. Trump had to push things so far that people really believed that he believed that the election had been stolen


Fatso was genius for sure. Genius enough to fathom, like the supreme con artist he is, the remarkable amount of stupid and gullible people are out there and shit on them accordingly via 30,573 certified lies he puked out while in office.

Brave? They don't call him the Bone Spur Kid for nothing ...... a real patriot :lol:
#15200848

Five people died either shortly before, during, or following the event: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three succumbed to natural causes.[19][32] Many people were injured, including 138 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.[33]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Unit ... tol_attack
#15201402
My recollection of the election is Gore sued and took it all the way to the Supreme Court. That suit was an attempt to get a recount in four select counties of Florida and no where else.

I don't believe in the history of a year or two, unlike the left. Keep practising grievance politics, but at least know what you're talking about.
#15201409
BlutoSays wrote:
Well, that's your problem because history goes a lot further back than a year or two.



I got something for that....

(Anything for your life and how-you-live / lifestyle is 'over your head' and necessarily social / *logistical*, including labor-power, while the overall domain of what's 'logistically-allowed' can be called 'politics', particularly the class divide.)


‭History, Macro-Micro -- politics-logistics-lifestyle

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#15201521

In response, Matthews wrote, “Four other DCNG [D.C. National Guard] soldiers heard Piatt say optics were an important consideration. ... Piatt evidently forgot about the Army [note-taker] present in McCarthy’s office with him who recorded his statements. [Note-takers] on two different sides of the river heard Piatt say the optics matter. At least 9 people then who were in the meeting heard Piatt mention optics. Only Piatt and Flynn are adamant that he did not.”



In summary, as the Capitol was being overrun, between 2:13 p.m. and 2:41 p.m., McCarthy was unavailable and two generals, one of whom is the brother of a top supporter of Trump, resisted three pleas by police chiefs Sund and Contee and General Walker to deploy troops.



https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/1 ... p-d07.html
#15201529

As has been previously reported on the WSWS, Meadows used “burner phones” to communicate with organizers of the pro-Trump Stop the Steal and Women for America First groups, which organized rallies in support of Trump’s coup in the months leading up to, and on January 6.



The threat of criminal contempt does not hold much water for Trump’s co-conspirators, many of whom appear to wear it as a badge of honor, a symbol of their loyalty to Trump and proof of their defiance against the “illegitimate” Biden administration. Their confidence is not misplaced. In the over 11 months since Trump, with the help of significant sections of the Republican Party, the police-intelligence-military apparatus, fascist militias, and lumpen elements, attempted to block the certification of Biden’s election on January 6, neither Bannon, Meadows, Clark, Trump or any other of his Republican legislative co-conspirators, such as representatives Paul Gosar (Arizona), Mo Brooks (Alabama), Andy Biggs (Arizona) or Lauren Boebert (Colorado) have sniffed the inside of a jail cell.

Far from being held to account by the Democratic Party, Trump’s loyalists in Congress, 147 of whom voted to overturn the results of the election after the attack on the couple, alternate between levying death threats at Democratic lawmakers and pledging their fealty to Trump and his “big lie” that the election was stolen.

Bannon is the only high-level Trump conspirator targeted by the committee who has actually had to appear in court, after Congress, in a near-party line vote, held him in contempt last month. Even so, Bannon will have another seven months to incite and cultivate fascistic support for Trump before he goes to trial.



As reported in Peril, by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, following the attack on the Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi confided to Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Mark Milley that Republicans “have blood on their hands” for enabling Trump’s coup and that Trump “should have been arrested. He should have been arrested on the spot.”

Instead, Biden and the Democrats have continued to call for “unity” with the party of Trump to enact their shared class agenda. The inability of the Democratic Party, beholden to the same financial oligarchy as the Republicans, to defend democratic rights or hold Trump accountable has embolden far-right politicians.

The defense of democratic rights cannot be left up to the Democrats, a party of Wall Street and the CIA, which has proven incapable of holding Trump and his accomplices accountable. What is needed is the independent mobilization of the working class, organized on an internationalist socialist perspective against both bourgeois parties and the capitalist system they represent.



https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/1 ... w-d08.html
#15201549
ckaihatsu wrote:

No, they're Trotskyists, not Stalinists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition
ckaihatsu wrote:

No, they're Trotskyists, not Stalinists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition


They're socialists. It's in their organizational naming. World SOCIALIST Web Site.

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