- 02 Jan 2022 02:47
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An American woman is suing Prince Andrew for money, claiming that when she was a teenager Prince Andrew sexually abused her while Jeffrey Epstein was using her for sexual purposes, letting her out to several men.
The woman's name is Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
Giuffre's attorney filed suit against Andrew for sexual abuse under the Child Victims Act in the U.S., although Prince Andrew's attorney questioned whether the woman now lives in Australia.
Apparently Giuffre was already paid a settlement by Epstein in 2009, the details of which will soon be made public on January 3.
(source: Prince Andrew: Jeffrey Epstein's 2009 settlement with Virginia Giuffre to be made public next week | UK News | Sky News )
Giuffre claims she lived on the streets at age 13 and then ended up getting abused by a 65-year-old sex trafficker, Ron Eppinger, in Miami, living with him for 6 months. Eppinger allegedly ran a front business for international sex trafficking and pled guilty to prostitution charges in connection to that.
Giuffre went back to her father at the age of 14 and returned to live with him. Her father worked as a maintenance manager at the Mar-a-Lago resort owned by Donald Trump, and helped Giuffre obtain a job there.
Giuffre says that in the summer of 2000, while working as a spa attendant, Ghislaine Maxwell (who was like Epstein's wife) offered her a job as a travelling massage therapist. Giuffre says they began grooming her to provide sexual services.
I'm normally pretty skeptical of civil suits over alleged sex crimes.
I've repeatedly stated in other threads that I do not believe women should ever be given money as compensation for sexual abuse.
It will incentivize women to make false accusations.
Nothing will incentivize false accusations more than the prospect of handing out large amounts of money.
(I know some people will try to argue that potential punishment will dissuade false witnesses, but there are a lot of people who are so blinded by money, even relatively small amounts, that they can't see the risk of punishment)
How can we really trust any witness when they stand to benefit from it with large amounts of money? I say we need to end this practice.
Is putting the man away for years and years or even decades in prison not enough?
A lot of people want a woman to be able to get her grubby little hands on some MONEY !
(and if the perpetrator does not happen to be rich, too bad for her, right?)
Now, this particular woman's claims about what happened do seem plausible to me.
This woman appears to have been rather stunningly attractive when she was a teen, but since then she has rapidly put on lots of weight, which is extraordinarily common among female former sexual abuse victims.
However, isn't it just a little bit strange that she was supposedly sexually groomed twice, on two different separate occasions? Is there a lot of this type of thing that goes on in Miami?
And couldn't it also be possible that this woman had always relied on her looks since she was a teen, and then maybe she didn't take very care of her body and lost that one asset she had, and now she is just trying to sue wealthy men for money by falsely claiming she is a sexual abuse victim?
A lot of these accused men just pay out large amounts of money in settlements to their accusers, whether they are actually guilty or not, to try to prevent publicity, and to avoid the risk of being ordered by the court to pay a much larger sum of money.
The woman's name is Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
Giuffre's attorney filed suit against Andrew for sexual abuse under the Child Victims Act in the U.S., although Prince Andrew's attorney questioned whether the woman now lives in Australia.
Apparently Giuffre was already paid a settlement by Epstein in 2009, the details of which will soon be made public on January 3.
(source: Prince Andrew: Jeffrey Epstein's 2009 settlement with Virginia Giuffre to be made public next week | UK News | Sky News )
Giuffre claims she lived on the streets at age 13 and then ended up getting abused by a 65-year-old sex trafficker, Ron Eppinger, in Miami, living with him for 6 months. Eppinger allegedly ran a front business for international sex trafficking and pled guilty to prostitution charges in connection to that.
Giuffre went back to her father at the age of 14 and returned to live with him. Her father worked as a maintenance manager at the Mar-a-Lago resort owned by Donald Trump, and helped Giuffre obtain a job there.
Giuffre says that in the summer of 2000, while working as a spa attendant, Ghislaine Maxwell (who was like Epstein's wife) offered her a job as a travelling massage therapist. Giuffre says they began grooming her to provide sexual services.
I'm normally pretty skeptical of civil suits over alleged sex crimes.
I've repeatedly stated in other threads that I do not believe women should ever be given money as compensation for sexual abuse.
It will incentivize women to make false accusations.
Nothing will incentivize false accusations more than the prospect of handing out large amounts of money.
(I know some people will try to argue that potential punishment will dissuade false witnesses, but there are a lot of people who are so blinded by money, even relatively small amounts, that they can't see the risk of punishment)
How can we really trust any witness when they stand to benefit from it with large amounts of money? I say we need to end this practice.
Is putting the man away for years and years or even decades in prison not enough?
A lot of people want a woman to be able to get her grubby little hands on some MONEY !
(and if the perpetrator does not happen to be rich, too bad for her, right?)
Now, this particular woman's claims about what happened do seem plausible to me.
This woman appears to have been rather stunningly attractive when she was a teen, but since then she has rapidly put on lots of weight, which is extraordinarily common among female former sexual abuse victims.
However, isn't it just a little bit strange that she was supposedly sexually groomed twice, on two different separate occasions? Is there a lot of this type of thing that goes on in Miami?
And couldn't it also be possible that this woman had always relied on her looks since she was a teen, and then maybe she didn't take very care of her body and lost that one asset she had, and now she is just trying to sue wealthy men for money by falsely claiming she is a sexual abuse victim?
A lot of these accused men just pay out large amounts of money in settlements to their accusers, whether they are actually guilty or not, to try to prevent publicity, and to avoid the risk of being ordered by the court to pay a much larger sum of money.
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