- 30 Nov 2021 00:31
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California here. Same as it ever was.
The great irony is that many of the immigrants are coming from Central American countries we disrupted.
We need another amnesty, and a resident worker program. You'll never see white Americans out doing the jobs immigrants are doing. It would come as a huge, paradigm-altering shock to this country if every immigrant walked off the job for two weeks.
Yep. They're afraid to lose the almighty moderate vote, so they wishy-washy around.
Oh, they're out there, I've argued elsewhere on that very point, MAGA types saying it's the parent's fault for bringing children with them to seek asylum. MAGA types have zero empathy. It's simply not there. They believe in the survival of the fittest and see themselves as the fittest.
If it ever comes to civil war in my lifetime, I know what side I'm on. And when push comes to shove and everyone in the disconnected middle has to take a side, I think there will be more on our side.
Re: TLP: I think so too. There were Dem purists who didn't trust TLP but I saw them as allies willing to fight at a level many Dems seem unable to, although there's a danger in becoming what one despises in the enemy because one has to fight at their level to win.
If we don't want another Trump (I don't think he'll run, but he'll tease it out as long as possible to pull in money) or Trump clone or MAGA-driven congress, it's imperative that Democrats come out to vote in greater numbers than we've ever seen before.
Drlee wrote:I do too. About 30 minutes here. (Arizona.) And you are quite right. I do not see anything like what is being reported. In fact, the border is pretty quiet and illegal crossings way down compared to before.
California here. Same as it ever was.
The question of the century. We cannot live without their work. Ironically Ronald Reagan knew this and granted amnesty. An amnesty, I would posit, that has worked very well.
They are not doing better. Sadly. They have the opportunity to have a real amnesty and I guess you could make the case for saying that the 10 year amnesty they are proposing is better than nothing.
The great irony is that many of the immigrants are coming from Central American countries we disrupted.
We need another amnesty, and a resident worker program. You'll never see white Americans out doing the jobs immigrants are doing. It would come as a huge, paradigm-altering shock to this country if every immigrant walked off the job for two weeks.
On this, voting rights, health care and the environment I believe that the democrats will come to see their great failing as not squashing the filibuster and pressing ahead with these.
Yep. They're afraid to lose the almighty moderate vote, so they wishy-washy around.
There is. Mine included. But the problem is that there are a great many Republicans and fellow travelers who believe that the family separation was the fault of the people who put the children in harms way in the first place.
Oh, they're out there, I've argued elsewhere on that very point, MAGA types saying it's the parent's fault for bringing children with them to seek asylum. MAGA types have zero empathy. It's simply not there. They believe in the survival of the fittest and see themselves as the fittest.
You and I know that this is wrong at so many levels that it beggars belief but we are not in a huge majority with our position. If indeed we are in the majority at all.
If it ever comes to civil war in my lifetime, I know what side I'm on. And when push comes to shove and everyone in the disconnected middle has to take a side, I think there will be more on our side.
"The Lincoln Project". True heroes. A masterful campaign and one that I am sure single-handedly cost Trump a second term. It was very very close. He very well could have won. Should have won. But I have to ask myself. Did he really lose? He is still calling the shots. Maybe more now than when he was president. I am so disappointed in the Democrats and I know I am not alone. At this point I believe that the mid terms are going to be an ugly thing. I think Trump will emerge stronger than before. I shudder to think what a second Trump presidency will look like with control of the House and Senate. Can you imagine?
Re: TLP: I think so too. There were Dem purists who didn't trust TLP but I saw them as allies willing to fight at a level many Dems seem unable to, although there's a danger in becoming what one despises in the enemy because one has to fight at their level to win.
If we don't want another Trump (I don't think he'll run, but he'll tease it out as long as possible to pull in money) or Trump clone or MAGA-driven congress, it's imperative that Democrats come out to vote in greater numbers than we've ever seen before.