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Rich wrote:I'm still confident that Boris will beat Spencer Perceval, but there does seem real doubt now whether he can beat Gordon Brown.
JohnRawls wrote:Yeah Starmer had a reversal of around 35 percentage points in a year and now Labour is in lead.
From around -25 to around +10 to +15 right now
This is not even mentioning that there seems to be a soft deal between Labour and Lib Dems which under current rough calculations is 50%+ of the voter base.
Potemkin wrote:Boris Johnson has succeeded brilliantly in uniting the country... against him.
As long as they have as "opponents" the current "Labour" party there is no end of the Torries in sight.
Thatcher called Blair her greatest victory for a reason, and with Jeremy Corbyn out of the picture, the Blairites are running Labour again. So no matter what the brits vote, the Torries will effectively be in power either way. They'll just be called Labour sometimes.
Unless there is a new worker party, and everybody knows how hard/impossible that is in a majority vote system to install a new party into the duopoly.
noemon wrote:Michael Gove is the "best" technocrat/bureaucrat in the Tory line-up, he would be the right choice if the strategy of the Tories is to place a caretaker PM they can blame for everything, just keeping the engines running in idle while they try to put their house in order.
If the strategy is to play politics and spar with Labour then I think the best choice from the line-up would be Liz Truss.
Rishi enjoys the most popularity but he has not proven himself in politics and his Covid policies have been seen as too "socialist" by Tory members, there is a risk of legitimising Labour even further and sending even more across the aisle. Rishi risks making the Tories being seen as Blue Labour.
JohnRawls wrote:Who exactly is defecting? Are they the moderate Tories?
Political Interest wrote:Some hardliners have defected as well.
They are not satisified with the handling of the pandemic i.e. lockdowns or Brexit policies.
JohnRawls wrote:I mean the one that joined Labour.
We must learn to live with Covid in the same way we live with flu
JohnRawls wrote:Very nice of Boris to start blackmailing people not to vote against him in the leadership contest as per the latest news. Was this his plan for Post Brexit Britain all along? Questions, Questions....
colliric wrote:Standard practice in the Westminster System when a leadership challenge is imminent. He's hitting the damn phones and probably getting no sleep right now. Got to secure the numbers.
JohnRawls wrote:Blackmail is not a standard practice
Shoring up support and blackmail are not the same thing you know.
colliric wrote:Yes, but they can very frequently cross over. Especially when the Party whip is involved as appears to be the case here.
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Appears to be a classic withdrawal of funding for future projects "threat".
Ditching all Covid restrictions must be popular in the UK now, since it's obviously his play to the public.
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