Independent_Srpska wrote: [...] you can't escape from the fact that people in the east of Ukraine had been under attack for 8 years by the Kiev regime. That's the corner stone of this situation.
No, the "Russians" in Donbas did not suffer. Good old russian disinformation.
The percentage of russian speaking people in the Donbas may be 30 to 38 percent. A minority if you so want, but still a minority. And we are talking about language not nationality, nor "blood" (while the latter is a typical nazi idea).
So we have 200,000 Russian in France, they will call for help and Papa Putin will come "liberate" them.
So this minority in Donbas lives a peaceful life, but Putin does not like that his puppet had been removed in 2014 at the Maidan, so he tries to stir up a fire in Donbas, calls nationalists to arms (the real nazis, b.t.w.) to support russian conquest and imports thousands of insurgents with weapons, trying to destabilise normal life, while blaming it all on "Kyiv" and "nazis" Lmao!
In March 2014, immediately following the Euromaidan protest movement and subsequent Revolution of Dignity, protests by pro-Russian, anti-government separatist groups took place in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts of Ukraine.
These demonstrations began around the same time as Russia's annexation of Crimea, and were part of wider instrumentalized (read: staged) pro-Russian protests across southern and eastern Ukraine.
Declaring the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR, respectively), armed Russian-backed separatist groups seized government buildings throughout the Donbas, leading to armed conflict with the Ukrainian government forces.
Ukraine launched a military counter-offensive against pro-Russian forces in April 2014, called the "Anti-Terrorist Operation" (ATO) from 2014 until 2018, when it was renamed the "Joint Forces Operation" (JFO).
By late August 2014, this operation was able to vastly shrink the territory under the control of pro-Russian forces and came close to regaining control of the Russia–Ukraine border.
In response, Russia abandoned its hybrid approach and began a conventional invasion of the Donbas.
Following reports of Ukrainian positions being shelled from the Russian side of the border, between 22 and 25 August 2014, Russian artillery, personnel, and what Russia called a "humanitarian convoy" crossed the border. Russian crossings reportedly occurred both in areas that were controlled by pro-Russian forces and those that were not, such as the south-eastern part of Donetsk Oblast, near Novoazovsk.
Head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Valentyn Nalyvaichenko, called the events of 22 August a "direct invasion by Russia of Ukraine", while other Western and Ukrainian officials called it a Russian "stealth invasion".
And so on.
a what exactly do Nazis have to do with it and
b who is guilty here?
Putin wants Krimea and he wants Ukraine. He wants it for conquest, not to "liberate" anyone. In this regard Antunov is more honest than you, he tells it like it is, he writes that torture and killing and obliterating Ukrainians and destroying all that is ukranian including civilians is all part of Putin's grand plan.
And he likes and supports this:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/12/worl ... index.html
And everyone knows that, fine. The gloves are off. We will see how Russia fares, with its bodged charlie foxtrot of an army.