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Unthinking Majority wrote:
NATO should at least rename itself. Russians probably have PTSD from the Cold War and still think NATO is trying to destroy them. Plus half a century of anti-nato propoganda



Why hasn't NATO *disbanded* by now -- ?

Its 'charter' / existence was supposed to be for the *Cold War* only, and now that's over, and some people here at PoFo *still* think in Cold-War terms, probably mostly because NATO still fucking exists.
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About why the USA and Ukraine voted in favor of the freedom to glorify Naziism, Rancid wrote:...In short, the western nations that abstained or voted against did so on the principle of free speech.

Yes, the freedom to be a Nazi and to spend billions promoting this ideology is a precious right that the USA supports (with its Ukraine project).

And we have laws against "denying the Holocaust" if another one happens because of this. Perhaps it will be some other groups who are "attempted genocided" this time.

Is this the kind of freedom that NATO supports?
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QatzelOk wrote:Is this the kind of freedom that NATO supports?


And what kind of freedom does the Kremlin support? Far-right nationalists like Mariane Le Pen or how about training camps for white supremacists like the Russian Imperial Movement? Several Swedish neo-Nazis were trained there who later went on to bomb refugee centers here in Sweden.

Then there’s the white supremacist group known as the Russian Imperial Movement, or RIM, which the State Department designated a terrorist organization in 2020 (an effort led by one of the authors here, Nathan Sales). With the Kremlin’s tacit approval, the group operates paramilitary camps near St. Petersburg in which neo-Nazis and white supremacists from across Europe are trained in terrorist tactics.

In 2016, RIM-trained terrorists conducted a series of bombings against a refugee shelter and other soft targets in Sweden, according to the State Department.


NBC
#15229595
MadMonk wrote:
And what kind of freedom does the Kremlin support? Far-right nationalists like Mariane Le Pen or how about training camps for white supremacists like the Russian Imperial Movement? Several Swedish neo-Nazis were trained there who later went on to bomb refugee centers here in Sweden.



NBC



Here's a good overview of the history of it:



лавировать • 3 days ago

Good analysis, a 21st century Lenin clearly pointing to the transformation of military conflict into class conflict. The surrender of the fascist Azov units at Mariupol broadcast to the world, conveyed the political message that NATO does support fascism, after 30 years of support for Al Qaeda and its later variants. Politically that is a horrendous exposure that the shrewd former Stalinist cadre around Putin is building political gains from. After 1991, End-Of-History academics, fake left, trade unions from Warsaw to Moscow did all they could against the return of Marxism to
the masses of workers and oppressed, disarmed them politically to herd them instead into the unknown abyss of mass emigration that crashed on uncertainty. Academics, Governments , trade unions and fake left, including nostalgic Stalinists, promoted oligarchism, refuted, forbade Marxism. Putin is their product ,in great part, that of the G7 imperialists policies east of Warsaw. If the middle class soldiers of Azov did not commit suicide for Zelensky and NATO, why should the rest of humanity be forced to do so?



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#15229803
When faced with the reality that the West supports Naziism, MadMonk wrote:And what kind of freedom does the Kremlin support?

Yes, and what kind of freedom did the Maliseet support? The Iroquois? The Cheyenne? The Arapaho? The Chippewa?

Fascism-supporting racist nations always have a target nation to scapegoat, destroy, and pillage.

And they are always at war (until they are destroyed).

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