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Igor Antunov wrote:Play stupid mrna games, win stupid prices. Also note the huge spike in children's liver failure. TotaLLy cOiNcidAncE
Godstud wrote:Another idiot, that you believe, @JB70, simply because it fits your foolishly dumb narrative.
The Latest Covid Misinformation Star Says He Invented the Vaccines
Dr. Robert Malone says he helped invent mRNA vaccines and has been wronged for decades. Now he’s spreading unfounded claims about the vaccines and the virus.
Dr. Malone also routinely sells himself on the shows as the inventor of mRNA vaccines, the technology used by Pfizer and Moderna for their Covid-19 shots, and says he doesn’t get the credit he deserves for their development. While he was involved in some early research into the technology, his role in its creation was minimal at best, say half a dozen Covid experts and researchers, including three who worked closely with Dr. Malone.
In spreading these exaggerations and unfounded claims, Dr. Malone joins medical professionals and scientists, like Dr. Joseph Mercola and Dr. Judy Mikovits, whose profiles have grown during the pandemic as they spread misinformation about mask-wearing and convoluted conspiracy theories about virus experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci.
The coronavirus pandemic has “given rise to a class of influencers who build conspiracy theories and recruit as many people into them as possible,” said Emerson T. Brooking, a resident senior fellow for the Atlantic Council who studies digital platforms. “These influencers usually have a special claim to expertise and a veneer of credibility.”
The idea that he is the inventor of mRNA vaccines is “a totally false claim,” said Dr. Gyula Acsadi, a pediatrician in Connecticut who along with Dr. Malone and five others wrote a widely cited paper in 1990 showing that injecting RNA into muscle could produce proteins. (The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work by injecting RNA into arm muscles that produce copies of the “spike protein” found on the outside of the coronavirus. The human immune system identifies that protein, attacks it and then remembers how to defeat it.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/tech ... covid.html
You really are a conspiracy theorist of the worst kind.
JB70 wrote:There are the new studies that seem to confirm the vaxx cause problems with immunity with future infections.You have YET to post anything that supports your stupid conspiracy theory that vaccines are hurting people. You've posted FUCK ALL to support your false statements. Nothing you have stated is fact, nor is it supported by your studies, that you clearly don't understand.
Godstud wrote::lol: You have YET to post anything that supports your stupid conspiracy theory that vaccines are hurting people. You've posted FUCK ALL to support your false statements. Nothing you have stated is fact, nor is it supported by your studies, that you clearly don't understand.
@JB70 You have no clue what that study, you just posted, is about.
Quote the relevant paragraph, then give me a synopsis.. If you can't do that, then you're simply trying to drown me in walls of your BS spam.
Nothing I've read of yours, so far, has supported even the slightest claim that you've said.
Nothing.
"We find that prior vaccination with Wuhan-Hu-1-like antigens followed by infection with Alpha or Delta variants gives rise to plasma antibody responses with apparent Wuhan-Hu-1-specific imprinting manifesting as relatively decreased responses to the variant virus epitopes, compared with unvaccinated patients infected with those variant viruses. "This doesn't mean what you say it does. You're BSing AGAIN.
BlutoSays wrote:Robert Malone is an MD with 30+ years in practice.So what? There are lots of doctors who have more experience who aren't lying assholes. An appeal to authority, when it's already been discredited is simply stupid. Good job on keeping up appearances!
ness31 wrote:A fraud? Really? Because he was used a Canadian study that got pulled? Did he know it had been retracted? When was the last time he used it publicly?Read the article I posted. He's not done this ONE time. He's made many false claims.
CLAIM: A study from the Francis Crick Institute in London found that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine destroys a type of white blood cell called the T cell and weakens the immune system.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The vaccine doesn’t destroy T cells or weaken the immune system. On the contrary, it generates a strong T cell response and boosts immunity, according to experts. A researcher at the Francis Crick Institute told The Associated Press the claim distorts his team’s work, which did not examine T cells.
THE FACTS: Articles that have amassed thousands of views across social media this week misrepresent a June study from Britain’s Francis Crick Institute, which looked at the ability of COVID-19 vaccines to produce neutralizing antibodies against viral variants.
The articles claim that the study shows the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine “destroys T cells” and “weakens the immune system.”
But that’s not at all what the research shows, according to the Francis Crick Institute’s Dr. David Bauer, one of the study’s authors.
“Our work to date has not studied T cells at all,” Bauer told the AP in an email. “All research published to date shows that the Pfizer (and other) vaccines generate a strong, positive, protective T-cell response against SARS-CoV-2.”
Outside experts confirmed that the COVID-19 vaccines don’t destroy or damage T cells.
“There’s a lot of data that shows that the vaccines induce strong T cell responses that recognize the virus and probably lead to protection,” said Dr. Joel Blankson, a professor of medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine who has personally studied T cell responses to COVID-19 vaccines.
“There is no evidence that any SARS-CoV-2 vaccine destroys any pre-existing T cells, rather the truth is the opposite,” said Dr. Grant McFadden, director of the Biodesign Center for Immunotherapy, Vaccines and Virotherapy at Arizona State University. “The vaccines all create new T cells that together with the antibodies all help to protect us from the COVID disease.”
The claim that the vaccines weaken the immune system is also false, Bauer confirmed. Research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and others shows the vaccines boost the immune response. The mRNA vaccines work by training the immune system to recognize the spike protein on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19, allowing it to generate an immune response, experts say.
The Francis Crick Institute study examined how antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines are able to neutralize new strains of the virus. It found that levels of antibodies generated by the vaccine were six times lower against the delta variant than against the original strain of the coronavirus. However, the vaccine still produced more protective antibodies against the delta variant than exist in unvaccinated people who have not had COVID-19, since unvaccinated people do not have the antibodies.
Therefore, Bauer explained, getting the vaccine offers more protection against the delta variant than going without it. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-823830789386
The claim: Cancer increased twentyfold among COVID-19 vaccinated due to suppressed T cells
As health systems across the country begin offering COVID-19 booster shots to those eligible under the CDC's Sept. 24 recommendation, an article circulating on social media claims the life-saving vaccines are creating more disease than they're fighting.
"Idaho doctor reports a '20 times increase' of cancer in vaccinated patients," reads the headline of the Sept. 13 article published by LifeSiteNews, a faith-themed website whose Facebook page was banned by Facebook in May for repeatedly violating the platform's COVID-19 policies concerning misinformation.
The Idaho doctor, Dr. Ryan Cole, says he observed a "20 times increase of endometrial cancers" since Jan. 1 over what he's seen on an annual basis, according to an Aug. 25 video shared to Twitter, which the LifeSiteNews article is based on. He also reported seeing a rash of "invasive melanomas in younger patients... skyrocketing in the last month or two" and an uptick in various autoimmune diseases.Cole asserts the culprits behind this slew of health problems are none other than the COVID-19 vaccines, which he claims are instigating a "drop in your killer T cells," a type of immune cell.
The Sept. 13 article has been shared across Facebook and amassed nearly 10,000 likes, shares and comments within a week, according to CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.
But it's nonsense.
The claim that the COVID-19 vaccines can cause autoimmune disease has been previously debunked by USA TODAY. Similarly, experts say Cole's claim of COVID-19 vaccines suppressing killer T cells has no basis in reality. And there's no evidence of a cancer surge since the vaccine rollout.
The claim: Cancer increased twentyfold among COVID-19 vaccinated due to suppressed T cells
As health systems across the country begin offering COVID-19 booster shots to those eligible under the CDC's Sept. 24 recommendation, an article circulating on social media claims the life-saving vaccines are creating more disease than they're fighting.
"Idaho doctor reports a '20 times increase' of cancer in vaccinated patients," reads the headline of the Sept. 13 article published by LifeSiteNews, a faith-themed website whose Facebook page was banned by Facebook in May for repeatedly violating the platform's COVID-19 policies concerning misinformation.
The Idaho doctor, Dr. Ryan Cole, says he observed a "20 times increase of endometrial cancers" since Jan. 1 over what he's seen on an annual basis, according to an Aug. 25 video shared to Twitter, which the LifeSiteNews article is based on. He also reported seeing a rash of "invasive melanomas in younger patients... skyrocketing in the last month or two" and an uptick in various autoimmune diseases.
Cole asserts the culprits behind this slew of health problems are none other than the COVID-19 vaccines, which he claims are instigating a "drop in your killer T cells," a type of immune cell.
The Sept. 13 article has been shared across Facebook and amassed nearly 10,000 likes, shares and comments within a week, according to CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.
But it's nonsense.
The claim that the COVID-19 vaccines can cause autoimmune disease has been previously debunked by USA TODAY. Similarly, experts say Cole's claim of COVID-19 vaccines suppressing killer T cells has no basis in reality. And there's no evidence of a cancer surge since the vaccine rollout.
Cole, owner and operator of his own medical laboratory chain, gained prominence this summer for his vocal opposition to COVID-19 vaccines – calling them "fake" and "needle rape." He also convinced Idaho school officials to scrap a mask mandate.
Cole did not reply to USA TODAY's request for comment. USA TODAY reached out to LifeSiteNews for comment.
T cells coordinate immune defense
Antibodies, immune molecules made in response to a foreign invader, have been well-publicized for their role in vaccine-induced immunity. But these Y-shaped proteins aren't the only ace up our immune system's sleeve.
T cells – the immune cells Cole mentions – are a type of white blood cell with many different functions but of two major types: helper T cells that coordinate an immune attack, and killer T cells that do the killing.
Typically during an immune response to a virus, helper T cells interact with and activate B cells – the white blood cell antibody makers – and killer T cells. Activated killer T cells go off hunting for any infected cells, killing them by triggering a self-destruct sequence programmed into all cells of the human body.
Typically during an immune response to a virus, helper T cells interact with and activate B cells – the white blood cell antibody makers – and killer T cells. Activated killer T cells go off hunting for any infected cells, killing them by triggering a self-destruct sequence programmed into all cells of the human body.
T cell- and B cell-based defense appears a vital element in determining whether a patient survives COVID-19 infection, said Kristen Cohen, a senior staff scientist in the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Division at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Wash.
"(Studies show) you did better in the context of severe disease in terms of survival if you had both arms of the immune system fending off the infection," she told USA TODAY.
However, with COVID-19, Cohen said it was unclear how much killer T cells specifically contribute to the cause.
"We know they're induced and we know they're highly functional... but we don't have clear, sort of causal data ... that they contribute to clearing the infection," she said.
COVID-19 vaccines encourage T cells
Cole's claim about a drop in killer T cells is exactly wrong, said E. John Wherry, director of the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine's Institute for Immunology.
"There are dozens of studies at this point showing that these vaccines induce potent virus-specific T cells and that the rest of the T cell compartment is left essentially normal, essentially untouched," he told USA TODAY. "There's no logical way that (Cole's claim of killer T cells being affected) makes any sense."
In a recent study published in the journal Immunity, Wherry and colleagues found that in healthy people with no prior COVID-19 infection, helper T cells rose after the first dose and killer T cell counts rose after the second dose of either the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
Vaccination appeared to boost a T cell immunity already present in previously infected, fully vaccinated people, although only after the first dose and not by that much. In these cases, that the people who got COVID-19 first and then got their vaccination, the vaccination basically acted a little bit like you might predict a boost to do if we give people a (vaccine) boost," Wherry said.
Once the vaccines cajole these T cells into existence, both Cohen and Wherry said they can remain in our bodies for a pretty long time, likely up to six or seven months, much like some studies estimate for antibodies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/27/fact-check-false-claim-cancer-rise-since-vaccine-rollout/8348140002/
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