What does this have to do with the fact Republicans are hypocrites on the states right position?
That was my point to you, and you side stepped it, lumped me with some other point and attacked that. You are the one that is full of shit here. That is, you just tried to straw man me.
Are you going to address how is it htat Republicans are actually for states rights given their history?
Here's the answer, they are not. They cherry pick "states rights" when it suites them.
OF COURSE THEY DO. They do it with guns all of the time. But Rancid and @Saeko please understand this:
There would be no republican party as a political force today if it had not carefully and calculatedly performed a miracle of states rights. By understanding that political power lies first in the states, they attacked and controlled the state legislatures while the democrats were blundering around worrying about a national agenda. (Still are.) That is why 27% of the voters control the majority of state legislatures and governorship. Seriously you two. Think about what that means. It means that, through gerrymandering they have made republican voter's individual votes more "powerful" than those of democrats. They can control seats in congress by making safe republican seats. They can control constitutional "progress" by preventing amendment. Why do you think the Equal Rights Amendment failed? Most importantly, why do you think that Trump got to appoint three archly conservative supreme court justices after losing the popular vote to Clinton by a whopping 2.9 million votes! And there is NOT ONE SINGLE FEDERAL ABORTION LAW. Every one of the trigger laws and others that will follow, come from the states.
The "old time" conservative movement was all about states rights. Republican candidate for president Barry Goldwater in 1964 famously said, "I do not seek to go to Washington to make government more efficient. I seek to go to Washington to make government smaller."
The problem is that neither of you truly understand a conservative agenda. We have become so entrenched in individual issues such as abortion and guns, that we fail to understand that there really are fundamental differences between conservatism and whatever you want to call democrats these days. (It is a moderate right party but lets not get in the weeds over that.) Conservatives do not necessarily believe that the most sacred ideas of "liberals" are correct. And they vote that way. The response by those liberals? Educate and persuade? Nope. Yell insults. That is all both sides do these days.
Understand that Republicans do not see the concentration of power in state legislatures as a bad thing. They see it as a good thing. They do not see the function of government as a homogenization of American thought. They do not believe in "one size fits all" government. They are fine with dry states, local control of schools and lowering taxes at the national level while raising them at the state level. A very telling comment by Goldwater illustrates one seminal divide between conservatives and liberal. Speaking of education he said:
“We have forgotten that purpose of education. Or better: we have forgotten for whom education is intended. The function of our schools is not to educate, or elevate society; but rather to educate individuals and equip them with the knowledge that will enable them to take care of society’s needs.”
This is in stark contrast with what most democrats would say the purpose of education is. So now, 60 years after this statement was made, we are shocked and appalled when Republicans want schools to teach STEM and not "Suzie has two mommies". It is utterly consistent with the message since Lincoln. Including the long forgotten time when the Republican party WAS the party of civil rights.
You two are angry. I am not. I have no problem with making individual citizens take charge of their government starting with the states.
Now I am going to tell you something that will really get up your collective noses. This decision and the one on guns may have saved the union. Why? Do not for a moment think that republicans and conservative independents are not deeply committed to their issues. You may not think that a fetus is a child but I can assure you that they do. You and I may "know" that gun control saves lives but they either do not believe that or do not care in service to the 2nd Amendment. By allowing regional differences on issues that are deeply inspiring and important to people of those regions we let the pressure off of the cooker.
So what the fuck. You can't easily get an abortion in Arizona and can carry a pistol at the grocery store. You can get an abortion in New York but can't carry the pistol. Both states are fine with this. That allows us to be a confederation of states rather than breaking apart. And trust me. We know from history that we can break apart and that the cost of reunification is a bloodbath. We do not need that. And we are stronger together than apart.
And finally. What does the overturn of Roe V. Wade really mean in the whole great scheme of things? Not much. It does not advance or retard the rights of women. They still have what they had before. They still have the right to assert their political will where they live and in doing so push that will up to the national level in concert with others. Will they do that? In some places they will and in some they won't. We have NEVER had a government dedicated to letting everyone do what they want to do, when and where they want to do it. We are a nation constrained by local laws; those laws moderated by the constitution of the states and ultimately the federal constitution.
Some women who want abortions will be inconvenienced. They will have to go to an adjoining state to get one. If they are poor that sucks but then it always sucks to be poor, doesn't it. And maybe, just maybe, if women in sufficient numbers want these laws to be overturned they will get to work and do it. If not. Oh well. That is the will of the people.