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Sandzak wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqM9Ch0AEGo&ab_channel=WION

China has the balls to shoot her airplane down! Does the West have balls???


Doubtful they would actually shoot that plane down.

Anyway, as far as I know, has Pelosi herself ever even suggested she was considering on visiting?
#15240520
@Rancid

I suspect this is posturing and playing to a Chinese audience by Chinese authorities. Attacking Pelosi if she does visit Taiwan is risky for China too. However, if the President of the United States advised against such a visit by her to Taiwan, then in my opinion, she should follow that advice. I understand her sentiments, but the U.S. national security interests come first, and the foreign policy set by the President.
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Correction for accuracy: Nancy Pelosi clarifies a vague claim by Biden that the Pentagon thinks it might not be a good idea for Nancy Pelosi to visit Taiwan. :roll:

Nancy Pelosi wrote:
"I think what the President was saying is -- maybe the military was afraid our plane would get shot down or something like that by the Chinese. I don't know exactly. I've heard it anecdotally, but I haven't heard it from the president."


There's an opinion piece by some nobody saying that Chinese planes should escort Pelosi (not shoot her down), and a statement by the Foreign Ministry that visits by US politicians to Taiwan threaten the ongoing discussions between Biden and Xi (there's a meeting on Thursday) but sure, let's get in our two minute hate.

Politics_Observer wrote:I suspect this is posturing and playing to a Chinese audience by Chinese authorities.


The posturing is by American authorities playing to an American audience. :lol:
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Politics_Observer wrote:We should value the lives of our citizens, while trying to prevent unnecessary conflict. No U.S. citizen should be treated as expendable unless under extreme circumstances during a time of war.


In the world of Trumpism, this would not be true. Trump models himself after Putin.
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@Politics_Observer
I was not saying Pelosi's life being "expendable" in a sense that we could throw her into danger as we wish -- we have zero rights to do so. However, if she voluntarily take the risk as part of the "Grand Plan" then maybe we can "loosen up" a bit, if you know what I mean.

which goes to...

@Rancid, I will support the Repuds if their ultimate goal is to neutralize the Chinese threat by luring China into destruction by directly opening fire against the United States. The problem here is that, in your hypothesis, they put offing internal political opponents over doing the world a favor.
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Patrickov wrote:The problem here is that, in your hypothesis, they put offing internal political opponents over doing the world a favor.


My hypothesis? That is reality. Any sort of benefit to the rest of the world is happenstance.

The type of people that blindly support Republicans, and that would approve of such a plan to off pelosi (i.e. BlutoSay's) clearly show this level of one dimensional thinking. They are not 4D chess players. :lol: Just fearful begrudging little cowards. I think their support for Jan 6th is another indicator of this.
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Politics_Observer wrote:
@Rancid

I suspect this is posturing and playing to a Chinese audience by Chinese authorities. Attacking Pelosi if she does visit Taiwan is risky for China too. However, if the President of the United States advised against such a visit by her to Taiwan, then in my opinion, she should follow that advice. I understand her sentiments, but the U.S. national security interests come first, and the foreign policy set by the President.



You nailed it.

My 2 cents is this should not have happened. But now that Xi trying to push us around, she should visit, after we make preparations. There is a rough dignity in consequences, not that Xi is likely to be that foolish.
#15240756
This is a nice distraction from what an insider-trading criminal Pelosi is.

Oligarchs who use insider knowledge to make money on the stock market are totally corrupt. Mafia garbage.

And mafia garbage wants you to worry about China declaring war on the USA, and not to worry about a little insider trading among the controlling classes of Western countries.

Nothing to see here. Move along. And where's your mask, Ukrainian flag and bike helmet?

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China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Ralph Nader.... please stop this woman before she even gets on the plane.
#15240786
Rancid wrote:My hypothesis? That is reality.


I have no evidence, so I think they worth some benefit of doubt.
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#15240788
QatzelOk wrote:China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Ralph Nader.... please stop this woman before she even gets on the plane.


If you think what you want worths a world war resulting in yourself going into a gas chamber, so be it. (as a matter of fact I do, including "the one pushed into the gas chamberbeing myself", but I see it as an opportunity to punish the countries you mentioned above rather than Pelosi)
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