Steve_American wrote:
I didn't say that the Repud fascists had been stopped. I said that they can be stopped in the future.
I want to do it legally. I don't want to use unconstitutional methods. I'm hoping that these will be sufficient.
You may be right to think that they may not be sufficient. It all depends on if *enough* independents come out to vote blue no matter who this year.
Partly I think this way because the Repud fascists own a lot of guns and ammo, and the Dems far less. Our only hope is to do it legally so that the Army and the vast majority of police are on our side. Without the Army and the police on our side, the "brownshirts" will for sure win the street battles.
I think there's a larger context at-play here, that of the rough treatment of Black Lives Matter protestors, compared to the *white-glove* treatment of Trump's minions at the Capitol building on January 6.
Also, the U.S. military has *already* been politicized -- it's what happens when there's a power / leadership vacuum ('Bonapartism'), as when Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act in June of 2020, to forcibly clear protestors from Lafayette Square.
Fearing a Trump Repeat, Jan. 6 Panel Considers Changes to Insurrection Act
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/us/p ... n-act.htmlAnd:
On June 1, 2020, amid the George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C., law enforcement officers used tear gas and other riot control tactics to forcefully clear peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square surrounding streets, creating a path for President Donald Trump and senior administration officials to walk from the White House to St. John's Episcopal Church.[1][2][3] Trump held up a Bible and posed for a photo op in front of Ashburton House (the church's parish house), which had been damaged by a fire during protests the night before.[4][5][6]
The clearing of demonstrators from Lafayette Square was widely condemned as excessive and an affront to the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly.[7][8] Just before visiting the church, Trump delivered a speech in which he urged the governors of U.S. states to quell violent protests by using the National Guard to "dominate the streets", or he would otherwise "deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem".[9][10][11]
Former military leaders, current religious leaders, and elected officials from both parties condemned Trump for the event,[12] though some of Trump's fellow Republicans defended the actions.[13] The event was described by The New York Times as "a burst of violence unlike any seen in the shadow of the White House in generations" and possibly one of the defining moments of the Trump presidency.[8] Civil liberties groups filed a federal lawsuit against Trump, U.S. Attorney General William Barr, and other federal officials, alleging they violated protesters' constitutional rights.[14] General Mark A. Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, later apologized for his role in the photo op.[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... 27s_Church
There's plenty of *complicity* to go-around:
Yet despite an ever expanding mountain of evidence incriminating Trump, the Republican Party and substantial sections of the military, the police and the intelligence agencies in the bid to overturn the 2020 election and install Trump as dictator-president, neither Trump nor any of his major co-conspirators, with the exception of Steve Bannon, has been indicted, let alone imprisoned, and Bannon faces a mere misdemeanor charge.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/0 ... c-j23.html
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Disproportionate policing of Black Lives Matter events
Further information: Law enforcement response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack § Accusations of differential treatment
Black Lives Matter protesters are themselves sometimes subject to excessive policing of the kind against which they are demonstrating. In May 2020, in addition to police, 43,350 military troops were deployed against Black Lives Matter protesters nationally.[110] Military surveillance aircraft were deployed against subsequent Black Lives Matter protests.[110] Observers, such as U.S. President Joe Biden, have noted that violent far-right mobilizations, including the 2021 United States Capitol attack, attracted smaller and more passive police presences than peaceful Black Lives Matter protests.[111][112][113][114][115][116] In November 2015, a police officer in Oregon was removed from street duty following a social media post in which he said he would have to "babysit these fools", in reference to a planned BLM event.[117]
According to a report released by the Movement for Black Lives in August 2021, the United States federal government deliberately targeted Black Lives Matter protesters in an attempt to disrupt and discourage the Black Lives Matter movement during the summer of 2020. According to the report, "The empirical data and findings in this report largely corroborate what Black organizers have long known intellectually, intuitively, and from lived experience about the federal government's disparate policing and prosecution of racial justice protests and related activity".[118]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liv ... ter_events
Steve_American wrote:
Bluto lives in his info bubble, so he thinks that independents care more about the unavoidable leaving behind of a lot of military equipment when Biden followed through with Trumps plan to leave Afghanistan. It was Trumps plan and it was totally impossible for the US Army to disarm the the Afghan Army that we had armed without being responsible for their failure to keep the Taliban from returning to power. Bluto is an idiot to think otherwise. When as any military disarmed its allies when it gave up on a war? Never that I know of. For example, we didn't disarm the South Vietnamese Army when we pulled out of Vietnam. Did anyone harp on how we armed our enemies then?
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BS should be made to be financially responsible for all of the bullshit he slings around, just like Alex Jones:
Alex Jones is ordered to pay $45.2 million for lying about Sandy Hook school shooting
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/11161116 ... chool-shooWhat Alex Jones’ $50 Million Fine Means For Others Profiting Off Disinformation