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It is said that taking America for granted is that bridges socialism to liberalism. But liberals ought to be communists, so democracy comes into action. Democracy often redefined as American College, including college girls.

In retrospect, firm belief in work ethics could spare youngsters this long journey. So the existing state of war is to blame.

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American Missions:

Defend Liberty

We are the true heirs of the Whig tradition that the autocratic government back in Britain has betrayed. We must defend our right to no taxation without representation in the same manner as Cromwell and Fairfax.

American Independence
Liberty or death! Patrick Henry

Ol' Man River
The Mississippi River is the artery through which all commerce in the interior of North America flows. If we are to keep our independence we must have access to this river.

Expand Nation
We have been given a strong and viable country by those that came before us. It is time we expand upon our legacy and grow [Root.GetName] so that we may leave a stronger and more influential country to our children.

Union of States
Rather than one unified state our country has grown from a large number of states integrated into one confederacy. As our administration grows and evolves we must not infringe on the rights of the member states, doing so would trample on the very principles of our existence.

American Republic
The American Republic is a confederation of the Thirteen States of America, each with their own independence and governments, with a President who rules for four years after election.

Martin Luther King Jr. Ambition
let frito-rings, open your cracker boxes, grab your frito-rings. land of the pilgri-pride , land my fotha die, gimme children.

After the second war with Great Britain, The War of 1812, the United States' economic dependency on Great Britain had finally come to an end. Domestic industry, filled the vacuum created by a suspension of trade with Europe, emerged from the war a vital, expanding force in the economy. America had taken its first steps in the evolution from a largely agrarian nation into an industrial giant.

People have been complaining about the buns they are buying. They want the all-inclusive bun, with spices, toppings and lovely flavor but for the same price as the regular bun without all the nice, tasty things.

George Washington and Henry Knox have formulated a policy to encourage the assimilation of Native Americans and transform their culture to European-American culture. Education is the primary method in the acculturation process for minorities and the immigrants from Europe has caused a growing public support for education to encourage a standard set of cultural values and practices for the majority of citizens to share. The six-point plan for civilization as formulated by George Washington:
1. impartial justice toward Native Americans
2. regulated buying of Native American lands
3. promotion of commerce
4. promotion of experiments to civilize or improve Native American society
5. presidential authority to give presents
6. punishing those who violated Native American rights.

Freedom of Religion

+5 Tolerance of heretics

Bill of Rights

−2 National unrest

Manifest Destiny

+1 Colonist Shining City on a Hill

+1 Yearly prestige
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KhawarezmLLC wrote:
It is said that taking America for granted is that bridges socialism to liberalism.

But liberals ought to be communist

Democracy often redefined as American College, including college girls.

In retrospect, firm belief in work ethics could spare youngsters this long journey.

So the existing state of war is to blame.

Feedback?



That's 2 thoughts without a clear reason they are connected.

Sigh, I visited Hungary in 73 when they were part of the Soviet empire. I was a Lefty at the time, but my visit taught me there were big differences. The Soviet system was not communism, European countries weren't socialist in the traditional sense. They were capitalist democracies with strong social programs.

Democracy wasn't redefined. We started as a country run by educated elites that were chosen because they had talent. I am beginning to think that without a good education system, a democracy is far too vulnerable to demagogues like Trump.

What long journey???

State of war? Do you mean Ukraine? After the end of WW2, we ended the imperial system. Russia never got the message.
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@late

I agree. In order for democracy to work and to be able to survive, the entire population needs to be well-educated and qualified to vote. It's like grabbing some dude off the street and asking him to perform heart surgery on your uncle who just had a heart attack. Is that dude fresh off the street qualified to do heart surgery? Would you trust some dude off the street to perform heart surgery on your uncle and to keep your uncle alive? Same concept with voting. You want a populace that is qualified to vote and not just any Tom, Dick, or Harry off the street who never got a good civics education or who lacks the critical thinking skills necessary to make wise voting choices.
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late wrote:
After the end of WW2, we ended the imperial system. Russia never got the message.



The imperial system was long-over by then. (See the following excerpts.) Also, the USSR was *Stalinist*, not imperialist.



Tsar's return and abdication

Nicholas's response on 27 February O.S (12 March N.S), perhaps based on the Empress's earlier letter to him that the concern about Petrograd was an over-reaction, was one of irritation that "again, this fat Rodzianko has written me lots of nonsense, to which I shall not even deign to reply".[50] Meanwhile, events unfolded in Petrograd. The bulk of the garrison mutinied, starting with the Volinsky Regiment. Soldiers of this regiment brought the Litovsky [ru], Preobrazhensky, and Moskovsky Regiments out on the street to join the rebellion,[51][48] resulting in the hunting down of police and the gathering of 40,000 rifles which were dispersed among the workers.[6] Even the Cossack units that the government had come to use for crowd control showed signs that they supported the people. Although few actively joined the rioting, many officers were either shot or went into hiding; the ability of the garrison to hold back the protests was all but nullified. Symbols of the Tsarist regime were rapidly torn down around the city and governmental authority in the capital collapsed – not helped by the fact that Nicholas had earlier that day suspended a session in the Duma that was intended to discuss the issue further, leaving it with no legal authority to act. Attempts were made by high-ranking military leaders to persuade the Tsar to resign power to the Duma.[5]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_ ... abdication




Execution of the imperial family

Main article: Execution of the Romanov family

The Bolsheviks executed the tsar and his family on 16 July 1918.[48] In early March, the Provisional Government had placed Nicholas and his family under house arrest in the Alexander Palace at Tsarskoye Selo, 24 kilometres (15 mi) south of Petrograd. But in August 1917, they evacuated the Romanovs to Tobolsk in the Urals to protect them from the rising tide of revolution. After the Bolsheviks came to power in October 1917, the conditions of their imprisonment grew stricter and talk of putting Nicholas on trial increased. In April and May 1918, the looming civil war led the Bolsheviks to move the family to the stronghold of Yekaterinburg.

During the early morning of 16 July, Nicholas, Alexandra, their children, their physician, and several servants were taken into the basement and shot. According to Edvard Radzinsky and Dmitrii Volkogonov, the order came directly from Lenin and Yakov Sverdlov in Moscow. That the order came from the top has long been believed, although there is a lack of hard evidence. The execution may have been carried out on the initiative of local Bolshevik officials, or it may have been an option pre-approved in Moscow should White troops approach Yekaterinburg. Radzinsky noted that Lenin's bodyguard personally delivered the telegram ordering the execution and that he was ordered to destroy the evidence.[49][50]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_R ... ial_family



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ckaihatsu wrote:
The imperial system was long-over by then. (See the following excerpts.) Also, the USSR was *Stalinist*, not imperialist.




We're using different definitions.

Putin and the USSR was imperial in the sense they saw conquest as the goal. After WW2, we created a global economic order based on trade, not conquest.
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late wrote:
We're using different definitions.

Putin and the USSR was imperial in the sense they saw conquest as the goal. After WW2, we created a global economic order based on trade, not conquest.



Whoa, whoa, whoa -- take a *class*!

You're smearing history all over the place -- different *timeframes*, bro.


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ckaihatsu wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa -- take a *class*!

You're smearing history all over the place -- different *timeframes*, bro.




You were the one jumping further into the past, and getting pedantic.

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