Pants-of-dog wrote:No, feelings brought on by habitual behaviour are not premeditation.
Pants-of-dog wrote:No, I said they felt they would get away with it. I did not say they thought they did. They may have. They may not have. It is irrelevant to the fact that this was an episode of systemic racism.
"Feeling" you can get away with a crime and committing it as a result implies contemplating committing a crime beforehand - exactly the definition of premeditation.
Habitual criminals also contemplate committing their crimes, by the way. In fact, it's because of this that the habit is sustained over time without getting caught. Indeed, learning how to avoid being caught and prosecuted it is part of the process of becoming an experienced criminal. Under this ridiculous view, organized crime would not be premeditated because it's just habitual behavior.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Whether or not f it was premeditated has no impact on whether or not this is systemic racism.
Based on your own narrative, it definitely does.
If the cops did not think they could get away with this kind of beating of a Black person, can you say the incident was caused by systemic racism? No.
Did they believe they could get away with the beating? Seems unlikely, because they tried to justify it ex post. It would also not be rational for them to believe so, given the precedent set by the conviction of Derek Chauvin and other similar incidents in recent years and the fact that they were wearing bodycams.
Oh, and by the way, there is also a recent and ongoing trial of another Memphis cop who kidnapped, murdered and then tried to hide the corpse of a Black person
while on duty for first-degree murder - something he already admitted during the trial. The reason, it seems, is because the victim was allegedly dating his ex.
https://www.actionnews5.com/2022/08/15/ ... ges-court/Are you saying these cops weren't aware of what was going on in this case? Would it be rational for them to, as you said yourself, allow themselves be filmed randomly beating a Black resident to death in light of the aforementioned ongoing trial? Is it rational for them to believe they can get away with that when one of their colleagues did not?
Pants-of-dog wrote:Again, I am not arguing premeditation. If yo think I am, then I am now clarifying that I am not arguing for premeditation.
Consequently, any imagined claims of premeditation are a strawman.
Just because you lack the honesty to admit your narrative implies premeditation, does not mean it doesn't imply premeditation.
Pants-of-dog wrote:No, you did not.
Please answer the question.
Yes I did. I even mentioned the clearest example of systemic racism: Intentional discrimination by the government. Leaving cases of unintentional negative impacts of its policies on some racial or ethnic group without any business justification unaddressed is also systemic racism, because in that case the government is now intentionally discriminating since it is aware the disparate effects of its policies aren't justified by any business need.
You have yet to prove either played a role here, particularly given the governmental reaction to this case.