[litwin]

VERY Logical development, Moscow empire is dying and Han-China "takes back" stolen Manchu Lands , as I predicted ...


"Khaishenvai", "Boli" , "Shuangchenzi" ,"Quedao", the official names the Chinese Ministry of Natural Resources for Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Ussuriysk and Sakhalin.

[Fasces]

Vladivostok already has a name in Chinese. Haishenwai. Why would they give it a new name?

A new name with the sounds "khai" and "vai" or "que" which are not sounds or phonemes in Chinese.

Don't fall for BS.

[noemon]

The BS of claiming that Haishewai is different to Khaisenvai?

[Fasces]

That China would be suddenly renaming cities that already have centuries old Chinese names with arbitrary new names that are literally unpronouncable in Chinese, @noemon.

Hell, let's say that China did publish a map using the Chinese names for these islands and cities. If Greece published a map that labelled 'France' as 'Γαλλία' is that evidence of Greek imperial ambitions on France?

[litwin]

Vladivostok already has a name in Chinese. Haishenwai. Why would they give it a new name?

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when do you think han-china "take back " outer Manchuria ? Moscow empire has NEVER been so weak since 17c

[litwin]

That China would be suddenly renaming cities that already have centuries old Chinese names with arbitrary new names that are literally unpronouncable in Chinese, @noemon.

Hell, let's say that China did publish a map using the Chinese names for these islands and cities. If Greece published a map that labelled 'France' as 'Γαλλία' is that evidence of Greek imperial ambitions on France?

[noemon]

That China would be suddenly renaming cities that already have centuries old Chinese names with arbitrary new names that are literally unpronouncable in Chinese, @noemon.

Hell, let's say that China did publish a map using the Chinese names for these islands and cities. If Greece published a map that labelled 'France' as 'Γαλλία' is that evidence of Greek imperial ambitions on France?

Riiight, that's a more appropriate and different argument to playing semantics.

[litwin]

That China would be suddenly renaming cities that already have centuries old Chinese names with arbitrary new names that are literally unpronouncable in Chinese, @noemon.

Hell, let's say that China did publish a map using the Chinese names for these islands and cities. If Greece published a map that labelled 'France' as 'Γαλλία' is that evidence of Greek imperial ambitions on France?

[Fasces]

when do you think han-china "take back " outer Manchuria ? Moscow empire has NEVER been so weak since 17c

Han China never controlled Outer Manchuria and hasn't existed in 1800 years, so probably never.

[Rich]

VERY Logical development, Moscow empire is dying and Han-China "takes back" stolen Manchu Lands , as I predicted ...

So I'd be interested to know how you see things going in the carve up of the rest of Russia controlled territory. Do you think Rostov for example is an intrinsic part of Russia or Muscovy as you call it? When Ukraine regains control of Mariupol and Crimea do you think they should be content to share the Azov sea?

[litwin]

So I'd be interested to know how you see things going in the carve up of the rest of Russia controlled territory. Do you think Rostov for example is an intrinsic part of Russia or Muscovy as you call it? When Ukraine regains control of Mariupol and Crimea do you think they should be content to share the Azov sea?

Rostov has strong local identity , it´d DO FINE WITH MOSCOW´S DESPOTISM , Muscovy ´d return back to its 15c Borders , Much like Portugal, England , France did

YOU CAN SEE PUTIN´S TECHNOCRATS ARE READY TO capitulate , the date which they are posting daily KILL ALL RT. narratives

[litwin]

Han China never controlled Outer Manchuria and hasn't existed in 1800 years, so probably never.

do you mean han- china ? or all other "chinas" including Manchurians ( called by the hans - Qing ) empire ?


wiki :

after losing the Opium Wars, Qing China was forced to sign a series of treaties that gave away territories and ports to various Western powers as well as to Russia and Japan; these were collectively known as the Unequal Treaties. Starting with the Treaty of Aigun in 1858 and the Treaty of Peking in 1860, the Sino–Russian border was realigned in Russia's favour along the Amur and Ussuri rivers. As a result,China lost the region now known as Outer Manchuria (an area of more than 1 million km2) and access to the Sea of Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Manchuria

[litwin]

Han China never controlled Outer Manchuria and hasn't existed in 1800 years, so probably never.

[Rancid]

If Russia dissolves you sure as shit know China is going to annex parts of Russia.

[Fasces]

I'm making fun of you clinging to ancient names like Muscovy and Litvin and Han China, @litwin



Han China stopped existing in 200 AD. They're not about to seize Outer Manchuria, not anymore than the Roman Republic is going to colonize Bulgaria.

[ThirdTerm]

Владивосто́к = 海參崴 (Hǎishēnwǎi)

According to the provisions of the Chinese government, all maps published in China must bracket the city's Chinese name.

Article 17 Relevant regulations on notation of place names:
The following place names in Russia must include Chinese names, except for maps in Chinese and foreign languages:
1. "Vladivostok" brackets "海參崴";
...

https://baike-baidu-com.translate.goog/ ... _tr_pto=sc

[litwin]

I'm making fun of you clinging to ancient names like Muscovy and Litvin and Han China, @litwin



Han China stopped existing in 200 AD. They're not about to seize Outer Manchuria, not anymore than the Roman Republic is going to colonize Bulgaria.

feel free

[Robert Urbanek]

Hitler decided he could not invade the island nation of Britain, so he attacked Russia instead. Xi Jinping decides he cannot invade the island nation of Taiwan, so he attacks Russia instead.

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

[late]

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

Battlestar Galactica...

[Robert Urbanek]

Battlestar Galactica...

Yes, the sacred Mormon script.