Godstud wrote:So what? We have the best medical systems in history, so these are very rarely dangerous. it's safert than at any other time in history.
Smoking is also safer than at any other time in history. Doesn't mean it's a good idea to smoke.
People die all the time. No, that's a good reason not to have kids. That's a ridiculous reason.
Easy to say when you're not the one who is doing the dying.
There are risks in everything we do. When you have sex, you are taking a risk. When you walk down the street you are taking a risk. This is not the patriarchy. It's reality.
Walking down the street is inevitable. Being pregnant is not. Pregnancy and birth are unnecessary and dangerous risks.
Not wanting kids and to spend everything on yourself is selfish, even if MEN choose to do this. It's not limited simply to women.
This implies that there is some kind of moral obligation to have kids. That's what I meant when I said there is a patriarchal norm for women to have kids. This is the lie. There is no moral obligation for anyone to have kids, men or women. Therefore, there is nothing wrong with not having them.
Please provide a source showing that they can detect levels of love. Is there a study? Which loves is better? Which is more fulfilling? Is there a scale?
I think it's pretty self-evident that someone who can't even wipe their own ass and has yet to learn their ABC's is also incapable of appreciating the nuances of an adult relationship.
They do know. It's not a secret. Why are you pretending that women don't know they can get pregnant, and the risks associated with it? Do you really see women as lacking agency in even their own self control? :?:
I'm not pretending that women are generally unaware of all of the risks of pregnancy. That's just a fact. I myself have never even heard of most of them until I did some research.
Additionally, people act irrationally all the time. You'd be surprised how many decisions around having children are based on nothing more than wishful thinking, the mere hope that everything will turn out okay.
Men make sacrifices regarding family, so they can provide FOR their family. Men work FOR the family, and not for self-gratification. I know of few men who would choose career over family if they had a realistic choice, and the family wouldn't suffer financially for it.
Men abandon their wives and children for a lot less than their careers. Some side action often does the trick.
4 Feminist Lies That Are Making Women Miserable
Of all the lies feminists tell, the idea that career success is more fulfilling than marriage and family is by far the greatest. It is almost impossible to convey the depth of this lie, for it too began in the 1960s, this time with Betty Friedan's insistence that being a wife and mother is akin to being in a "comfortable concentration camp."
For many women, myself included, it would be. Only I would disagree that it would be comfortable.
Since that time, American women have been walloped with a steady diet of words and images that drive Friedan's argument home. Humans are pack animals: we need to feel part of the group to feel good about ourselves. Some of us are content to stand apart from the crowd, but most are not.
Cultural messages matter. Since mothering is no longer revered or encouraged, women are surprised to discover how heart-wrenching it is to leave their babies and return to work. They're surprised to discover that work isn't nearly as satisfying as they were led to believe. This same sense of unease is felt by single women who can't find a man with whom to settle down.
https://www.drjamesdobson.org/blogs/4-f ... -miserable
This is a false dichotomy. For most women, work is non-negotiable. Child-rearing is, and lots of mothers discover too late that child rearing wasn't for them.
I reject your childish rebuttal. You cannot argue against it, so you don't.
Can't argue against childish nonsense, so I won't.