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#15288670
I see that anti-vaxxers opposes public health care, which seems irreconcilable with a claim of supporting socialism.

If the anti-vax position opposes public healthcare, because government is in on the conspiracy, and private companies cannot be trusted (also part of said conspiracy), then we must all become naturopaths or something.
#15288681
skinster wrote:(to PoD)

How many boosters have you had? Why can't you answer that? For someone who's gung-ho on the official narrative on Covid, I'd have expected you to be able to answer easily. Someone who isn't gung-ho there (waton) answered on the first time of me asking, without any problem. I've asked you possibly close to 10 times now and you always ignore this. It suggests you're afraid to say you've stopped getting boosters because you've realised it was something of a scam, but you want to save face or something.


In Modern societies, people just "go along to get along" without really thinking about the trends they are following.

When confronted regarding this kind of mute obedience, they usually change the subject so as not to recognize that they are totally amoral and acting like a slave or a pet dog.

Pants-of-dog wrote:It is illogical to claim that the government cannot be trusted with health matters and also claim that the government should run health.

We have the wrong kind of government to run anything - from diplomacy (heil Trudeau) to health mesaures (masks and lockdowns didn't stop anyone from getting sick).

We need a new form of government so that they can run things for society, and not for multinational corporations and moneyed gangs of religious terrorists.
#15288686
QatzelOk wrote:In Modern societies, people just "go along to get along" without really thinking about the trends they are following.

When confronted regarding this kind of mute obedience, they usually change the subject so as not to recognize that they are totally amoral and acting like a slave or a pet dog.


Which is expected online, but on a political forum where we can all read them doing this, repeatedly?

What's up with that? :lol:
#15288707
One reason could be because it's an experimental vaccine compared to those before it (vaccines usually take at least five years to be fully tested).

These new ones also include a new technology known as messenger RNA which we're learning today is causing much problems.

Also,

Exhibit A - me and everyone else who didn't get the covid vaccines :D

Exhibit B - all the people who died or are injured from them

But since you're very much into getting these vaccines, I imagine you're still getting the boosters. Are you fully vaxxed up?
#15288719
The current vaccines for Covid went through an expedited testing process, but there were no safety measures skipped. Instead, the bureaucratic red tape was reduced to allow for more speed. This, the time used for testing is not a good argument.

If mRNA vaccines are causing harm , please cite studies showing this harm.
#15288757
Covid Vaccine mRNA In Breast Milk Shows CDC Lied About Safety

A report exposing the lies that the vaccine was safe for pregnant women, below. I've posted plenty of others but when you don't ignore them, you are quick to dismiss them, because this isn't about the truth when it comes out - of which more and more pours out as time goes on - but about being right, for you. Even though you're wrong and the official narrative followers always were.
#15288766
Effect of COVID-19 vaccination and booster on maternal–fetal outcomes: a retrospective cohort study


    Findings

    Vaccinated people were more likely to conceive later in the pandemic, have commercial insurance, be older, live in areas with lower household composition vulnerability, and have a higher BMI than unvaccinated people. Boosted people were more likely to have more days since receiving the second COVID-19 vaccine dose, conceive earlier in the pandemic, have commercial insurance, be older, and live in areas with lower household composition vulnerability than vaccinated unboosted people. Vaccinated pregnant people had lower rates of COVID-19 during pregnancy (4·0%) compared with unvaccinated matched people (5·3%; p<0·0001). COVID-19 rates were even lower in boosted people (3·2%) compared with vaccinated unboosted matched people (5·6%; p<0·0001). Vaccinated people were also less likely to have a preterm birth (7·9%; p<0·0001), stillbirth (0·3%; p<0·0002), or very low birthweight neonate (1·0%; p<0·0001) compared with unvaccinated matched people (preterm birth 9·4%; stillbirth 0·6%; very low birthweight 1·5%). Boosted people were less likely to have a stillbirth (0·3%; p<0·025) and have no differences in rates of preterm birth (7·6%; p=0·090) or very low birthweight neonates (0·8%; p=0·092) compared with vaccinated unboosted matched people (stillbirth 0·5%; preterm birth 8·4%; very low birthweight 1·1%).
    Interpretation

    COVID-19 vaccination protects against adverse maternal–fetal outcomes, with booster doses conferring additional protection. Pregnant people should be high priority for vaccination and stay up to date with their COVID-19 vaccination schedule.

Vaccines apparently help pregnant people.
#15288787
If you were interested in finding out the truth and actually following the science, you could easily find this study since it's mentioned in the report by Russell Brand as well as within the article above, but you yet again demonstrate that you're a Big Pharma bot dedicated to maintaining the lies of the official narrative which were destroyed throughout the entire pandemic and continue to be. It is quite pitiful that this is how you spend your time.

Dr Campbell who was on the side of the official narrative until he got the covid vaccine and suffered an injury from it - resulting in him changing his position because he is a person of integrity who goes to the truth regardless of where it takes him - also reported on this study.
#15288795
From the study:


    Findings

    Of 13 lactating women receiving the vaccine (20 exposures), trace mRNA amounts were detected in 10 exposures up to 45 h post-vaccination. The mRNA was concentrated in the BM EVs; however, these EVs neither expressed SARS-COV-2 spike protein nor induced its expression in the HT-29 cell line. Linkage analysis suggests vaccine mRNA integrity was reduced to 12–25% in BM.
    Interpretation

    Our findings demonstrate that the COVID-19 vaccine mRNA is not confined to the injection site but spreads systemically and is packaged into BM EVs. However, as only trace quantities are present and a clear translational activity is absent, we believe breastfeeding post-vaccination is safe, especially 48 h after vaccination. Nevertheless, since the minimum mRNA vaccine dose to elicit an immune reaction in infants <6 months is unknown, a dialogue between a breastfeeding mother and her healthcare provider should address the benefit/risk considerations of breastfeeding in the first two days after maternal vaccination.

#15288922
skinster wrote:A lot of the covidiots are very silent about how many boosters they've had. Imagine not being able to say "Okay, this looks like a scam" at this point...

I wonder if they'll fall for this too :lol:

To state that there is going to be another pandemic which will kill millions of people is to state the bleedin’ obvious. Throughout human history, such pandemics have occurred with depressing regularity, and will undoubtedly occur again. What I find mystifying, however, is how they are able to develop a vaccine against a pandemic the origin of which is still unknown.
#15288932


Potemkin wrote:To state that there is going to be another pandemic which will kill millions of people is to state the bleedin’ obvious. Throughout human history, such pandemics have occurred with depressing regularity, and will undoubtedly occur again.


I think the point here is the fearmongering that they want to do, in a similar way to when Covid hit. Fortunately, many more people today know that it wasn't quite the terror some were tricked into believing.

What I find mystifying, however, is how they are able to develop a vaccine against a pandemic the origin of which is still unknown.


Perhaps they're creating it so know what to expect. :excited:
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