wat0n wrote:Indeed, although the situations are not the same.
If Russia needs to talk to Ukraine, it deals with its government. Russia knows that the government of Ukraine exercises control over its population and any violence against Russia will be authorized by it.
In Palestine's case, this is just not how things work. The Palestinian government has no way to stop Hamas and other armed groups. It it had, I think there would have been a peace treaty in the 1990s.
No, that is not the case. Ukraine's elected government which was pro-Russian was changed unconstitutionally according to Ukraine's constitution and noone trust that Zelensky is capable of controlling the Ukranian nazis who run rampant in corruption and violence. Fatah is probably a more reliable interlocutor and a less aggressive one too.
Moreover, Russia is the one who is open to talks while Ukraine is the one playing difficult which is what actually matters when makign international agreements. In the I/P case, it is Israel and not the Palestinian authority that is the difficult one to get it to sit in a table.
Again you are trying to find moral high ground for Israel obstinancy as compared to Russia when it is simply not there as Russia is not obstinate to peace with Ukraine, Israel is obstinate to peace with the Palestinian Authority.
As I said, nobody wants to hand Jerusalem to the UN. This includes Jerusalemites. The Palestinians in Jerusalem don't want to be under UN rule, they want to be under Palestinian rule. Same applies to the Jews with regards to Israel. And, of course, this also applies to Israelis and Palestinians in general.
Jerusalemite refers to both Israelis and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Palestine however has no control over Jerusalem, Israel does. And the State of Israel is the one who signed that Jerusalem must be administered by the UN. So again it is Israel that is not doing its legal duty, not someone else.
If they wanted to
It's not a matter of "want", Israel is obliged by Treaty to hand over Jerusalem to UN administration with or without Palestinian consent.
I disagree. Russia definitely doesn't want Ukraine to join the EU, let alone NATO, and considers it dangerous for its national security (not without reason, by the way).
Facts are not up for disagreement. Opinion does not create alternative dimensions. Russia did not prevent Ukraine applying in the EU nor being accepted by the EU as an EU candidate country. It's a fact that has already passed regardless of your agreement or disagreement. It just is. Russia could have used force to prevent the EU from accepting Ukraine but it didn't, the EU accepted its application and is only up to Ukraine now to accede by fulfilling the conditions for membership.
And I still wonder - why can't Russia just get along with the West? I would think it's in its long term interest to do so, given the impending rise of China.
Putin listed an enire list of US and German heads of state as well as CIA Heads where he asked numerous times to be included in western defense infrastructure either in NATO or in the missile defense system or as a partner/ally akin to Israel, Saudi, unofficially but starting a process of common defense architecture as it has been for centuries in fact. The Concert of Europe would not work without Russia, nor would have Napoleon or Hitler been defeated without it either.
So the question is reverse. Why can't the west accept Russia as a friend/partner/ally? Even after it unilaterally demilitarised all of Eastern Europe including East Germany and also after it rid itself of Communism?
Putin even came and addressed NATO directly.
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