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By litwin
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Rugoz wrote:The "peace offer" was not "hard" nor was it an offer, it was simply Putin trolling, to distract from the peace summit:



Even if Ukraine were on the brink of losing, which it is not, it would be plain retarded to withdraw from anything until an agreement is made.


any comment on this ?
'We Should Burn NATO Headquarters to the Ground'
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litwin wrote:HAVE JEWS FORCED Muscovite pig-dogs rape and kill Ukrainians in Bucha ?


This is a very crude way of asking whether NATO is picking WW3 with Russia... because the Rothschild clan are pissed off about losing control of Russia's oil under Putin.

But rich people are very crude, so it's a legitimate question.

Here's another one: "How many innocent people will die to help the Rothschilds stay richer than anyone else on Earth?"

And another one: "Is this a worthy cause to most Western schmoes?"
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By litwin
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QatzelOk wrote:This is a very crude way of asking whether NATO is picking WW3 with Russia... because the Rothschild clan are pissed off about losing control of Russia's oil under Putin.

But rich people are very crude, so it's a legitimate question.

Here's another one: "How many innocent people will die to help the Rothschilds stay richer than anyone else on Earth?"

And another one: "Is this a worthy cause to most Western schmoes?"



any comment on this ?
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litwin wrote:any comment on this ?

Yes, I have a comment.

Are the Rothschilds funding you, and if they are, how much are they paying you per post?

I hope they are paying you at least minimum wage ($15 US per hour).

If they are paying you less then this, you are being exploited, litwin. Russia would probably pay you a lot more to stop trolling.
By Rugoz
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litwin wrote:any comment on this ?


The hideousness of Russian propaganda is well known. Here is Solovyov, showing pictures of a destroyed Ukrainian city, threatening to do much worse to Germany.



And of course according to some we're supposed to trust the "peace proposal" of the guy who sanctions this vile shit, or believe that his criminal regime is actually fighting Nazism elsewhere :knife:.
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Rugoz wrote:The hideousness of Russian propaganda is well known.


ROTFL !!!! :lol:

Always hilarious when you find absolute n00bs on the internet who are surprised to find out that war is hell and act as if just one side would do it.

Those are cities in which regular civilians have fled (or sometimes only mostly fled, some people are very courageous and not all such cities got completely leveled) and in which ukrainian soldiers have fought for every street (at least in the past, anyway; more recently ukrainian soldiers seem to flee a lot, which is of course a lot wiser). So yeah, not much left of them.

But of course thats much more evil than Ukraine bombing the Donbas since ten years; i.e. cities full of civilians and with no military installations whatsoever. Killing 14,400 people even before the SMO. But thats fine, because WE did it. We are the good guys, everything evil we do is totally unintentional.

Even if we put people in "prison" for decades now in Guantanamo, with no prosecution let alone convict, just accusations - thats fine, because reasons.

Also funny, you look at these pictures and act as if the russians did something especially evil, without noticing how much ammunition this would all have cost. And yet the russians keep coming. But nooooooo its the russians who are running out of ammo, dont train their soldiers, and throw away human lifes in riddiculous frontal assaults. :lol:
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Negotiator wrote:ROTFL !! :lol:

Always hilarious when you find absolute n00bs on the internet who are surprised to find out that war is hell and act as if just one side would do it.

Those are cities in which regular civilians have fled (or sometimes only mostly fled, some people are very courageous and not all such cities got completely leveled) and in which ukrainian soldiers have fought for every street (at least in the past, anyway; more recently ukrainian soldiers seem to flee a lot, which is of course a lot wiser). So yeah, not much left of them.

But of course thats much more evil than Ukraine bombing the Donbas since ten years; i.e. cities full of civilians and with no military installations whatsoever. Killing 14,400 people even before the SMO. But thats fine, because WE did it. We are the good guys, everything evil we do is totally unintentional.

Even if we put people in "prison" for decades now in Guantanamo, with no prosecution let alone convict, just accusations - thats fine, because reasons.

Also funny, you look at these pictures and act as if the russians did something especially evil, without noticing how much ammunition this would all have cost. And yet the russians keep coming. But nooooooo its the russians who are running out of ammo, dont train their soldiers, and throw away human lifes in riddiculous frontal assaults. :lol:


Lines going up and up and up and up and going to be going up until at least 2026 :excited:

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By litwin
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Rugoz wrote:The hideousness of Russian propaganda is well known. Here is Solovyov, showing pictures of a destroyed Ukrainian city, threatening to do much worse to Germany.



And of course according to some we're supposed to trust the "peace proposal" of the guy who sanctions this vile shit, or believe that his criminal regime is actually fighting Nazism elsewhere :knife:.


I heard, the encircled pig-dogs demanded Ukraine to transfer Kyiv to them as a pre-condition to negotiations about Moscow's retreat from Vovchansk. is this information correct ?



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looks like, putin´s empire is officially China´s BITCH from now on :lol: Moscow empire will cede the Tumannaya River to China for access to the Sea of Japan.
https://x.com/menefr1/status/1802970344 ... _&ref_url=

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By litwin
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Negotiator wrote:I have finally found the original peace offer from Putin, in the kremlin translation to english:

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/74285

So if anyone wants to read this really VERY long speech, there it is.


the same question to you : I heard, the encircled pig-dogs demanded Ukraine to transfer :lol: Kyiv to them as a pre-condition to negotiations about Moscow's retreat from Vovchansk. is this information correct ?



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By Rugoz
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Negotiator wrote:ROTFL !! :lol:

Always hilarious when you find absolute n00bs on the internet who are surprised to find out that war is hell and act as if just one side would do it.


The German government doesn't threaten the annihilation of Russian cities or the permanent occupation of Russia by German soldiers. Because it is civilized, while Putinism was born out of gangsterism.

Negotiator wrote:So yeah, not much left of them.


Indeed, they were destroyed by Russia.

Negotiator wrote:But of course thats much more evil than Ukraine bombing the Donbas since ten years; i.e. cities full of civilians and with no military installations whatsoever. Killing 14,400 people even before the SMO. But thats fine, because WE did it. We are the good guys, everything evil we do is totally unintentional.


The war in the Donbas was led (Girkin) and fed (weapons, mercenaries) by Russia. Luhansk and Dontesk are still intact after 10+ years though, while Mariupol was leveled by the Russians.

If there's justice in this world, we will see Putin and his cronies rot in a cell in The Hague.
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Rugoz wrote:...If there's justice in this world, we will see Putin and his cronies rot in a cell in The Hague....


For the genocide of Palestinians?

Sorry, you've tagged the wrong person for the Ultimate Crime.

Was this intentional? Are you scapegoating heavily?
By Rugoz
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QatzelOk wrote:For the genocide of Palestinians?

Sorry, you've tagged the wrong person for the Ultimate Crime.

Was this intentional? Are you scapegoating heavily?


Making the whataboutism more obvious than ever before. Good for you.

Happy to see both Putin and Netanyahu hanging from lamp posts. :up:
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Some good news from the frontlines, Volchyansk seems to be an even bigger slaughter of Russian meat than Avdiivka/Bakhmut. They are getting mauled by drones and artillery and are stuck fully with Ukranian drone advantage being 5-10 to 1. So they are unable to even move heavy equipment forward beyond the border and to the city, 90% gets destroyed on the way. Obviously logistics are barely existent since the City is couple of kilometers from the border (5?).

Seems Zaluzhny general defensive plan is working big time. The defensive posture and accumulation of resources has payed off and concentration of experienced units on the axis of enemy advance when needed by fire brigades is especially good. Might be a problem if Russia starts a multi-pronged assault in several directions but it doesn't seem like RUssia has resources for that at all. This is especially good if you take in account drone operators and such who are not necessarily on the frontline itself. Basically this has a positive feedback loop on the training or even more experienced artillery man and drone operators.

Artillery wise, we need to deliver more PZH 2000 or Ceasar artillery pieces. They seem to be the most effective artillery systems around. American 109s, UK AS-90 and Krabs are not that good compared to them. PZH 2000 is not only super accurate but also can hold drone hits well especially with all other measures involved. And if you check Oryx then you can see barely any PZH 2000s or Ceasars were lost. Archer wise I am not sure, there are no news about it.
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By litwin
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JohnRawls wrote:Some good news from the frontlines, Volchyansk seems to be an even bigger slaughter of Russian meat than Avdiivka/Bakhmut. They are getting mauled by drones and artillery and are stuck fully with Ukranian drone advantage being 5-10 to 1. So they are unable to even move heavy equipment forward beyond the border and to the city, 90% gets destroyed on the way. Obviously logistics are barely existent since the City is couple of kilometers from the border (5?).

Seems Zaluzhny general defensive plan is working big time. The defensive posture and accumulation of resources has payed off and concentration of experienced units on the axis of enemy advance when needed by fire brigades is especially good. Might be a problem if Russia starts a multi-pronged assault in several directions but it doesn't seem like RUssia has resources for that at all. This is especially good if you take in account drone operators and such who are not necessarily on the frontline itself. Basically this has a positive feedback loop on the training or even more experienced artillery man and drone operators.

Artillery wise, we need to deliver more PZH 2000 or Ceasar artillery pieces. They seem to be the most effective artillery systems around. American 109s, UK AS-90 and Krabs are not that good compared to them. PZH 2000 is not only super accurate but also can hold drone hits well especially with all other measures involved. And if you check Oryx then you can see barely any PZH 2000s or Ceasars were lost. Archer wise I am not sure, there are no news about it.

After having refused to become a junior partner to the US, Moscow empire failed to become a junior partner to commie - China, so now it is pathetically qualifying as a junior partner to outcast stalenist North Korea.
What a fast decline!

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JohnRawls wrote:Lines going up and up and up and up and going to be going up until at least 2026 :excited:

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Yes, the bankrupt countries of the West are increasing their military budgets quite a bit.

Soon, they will all be destroyed by their own banks. Intentionally.

Again. And most of the posters in this thread are just posting MSM crap to distract from this fact.
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The cretinism of the Liberals is revealed yet again, by Putin's visits to North Korea and Vietnam. So note if the situation was really analogous to the nineteen thirties with Putin being Hitler and Russia playing Nazi Germany, then we would be seeking to make even North Korea an ally as we sought to make Mussolini and Fascist Italy an ally in the containment of Nazi Germany. While it is true that the Liberals maximalist victory demands and massive sense of self entitlement are very reminiscent of Hitler, the Liberals inability to leverage the undoubted successes of the the Ukrainian autumn 2022 offensives. Any attempt to extrapolate from the nineteen thirties to now, to say what would Churchill have done is the sign of a first rate idiot.

The visit to Vietnam is yet another sign of the Liberals failure to use their economic and financial power to bully the rest of the world into compliance. The visit to North Korea is a reminder of the lunacy of the Liberals attempt to destroy Russia. This idea that the only thing that Putin has left to escalate is to start throwing nuclear weapons around. Russian technology may leave much to be desired, but my God it could still cause no end of trouble if it were all given to North Korea.

Long term China, North Korea and Iran are all more implacable enemies of the west than Russia. We should be seeking compromise with Russia in order to contain China North Korea and Iran and also longer term to contain potential enemies of Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
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Rich wrote:The cretinism of the Liberals is revealed yet again, by Putin's visits to North Korea and Vietnam. So note if the situation was really analogous to the nineteen thirties with Putin being Hitler and Russia playing Nazi Germany, then we would be seeking to make even North Korea an ally as we sought to make Mussolini and Fascist Italy an ally in the containment of Nazi Germany. While it is true that the Liberals maximalist victory demands and massive sense of self entitlement are very reminiscent of Hitler, the Liberals inability to leverage the undoubted successes of the the Ukrainian autumn 2022 offensives. Any attempt to extrapolate from the nineteen thirties to now, to say what would Churchill have done is the sign of a first rate idiot.

The visit to Vietnam is yet another sign of the Liberals failure to use their economic and financial power to bully the rest of the world into compliance. The visit to North Korea is a reminder of the lunacy of the Liberals attempt to destroy Russia. This idea that the only thing that Putin has left to escalate is to start throwing nuclear weapons around. Russian technology may leave much to be desired, but my God it could still cause no end of trouble if it were all given to North Korea.

Long term China, North Korea and Iran are all more implacable enemies of the west than Russia. We should be seeking compromise with Russia in order to contain China North Korea and Iran and also longer term to contain potential enemies of Turkey, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

That historic opportunity was missed in the 1990s, @Rich, and it will not come again our lifetimes. The West just couldn’t give up its Cold War mentality until it was too late.
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QatzelOk wrote:Yes, the bankrupt countries of the West are increasing their military budgets quite a bit.

Soon, they will all be destroyed by their own banks. Intentionally.

Again. And most of the posters in this thread are just posting MSM crap to distract from this fact.


When you write Qatz, then I imagine you doing something like this on the background. Rich can you be your Slavic and you are obviously Kane. :excited:

By Rugoz
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Rich wrote:The visit to North Korea is a reminder of the lunacy of the Liberals attempt to destroy Russia.


:knife:

The "attempt to destroy Russia" only exists in that confused mind of yours. If anything, the West is far too obsessed with not giving that impression. Russia can get the fuck out of Ukraine and that's it. The only thing at risk is the career of Putin and his cronies.
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