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Godstud wrote: Harris is not an African American. She's an Indian American(Jamaican isn't African).


Christopher Columbus was the first European to set foot on the island when he claimed it for Spain on May 3rd, 1494, during his second voyage to the New World. Jamaica was settled by the Spanish in 1510 and the indigenous Taino people were forced into slavery and eventually exterminated. In the early years of the 16th century the practice of importing slaves from West Africa to work in Jamaica began.

Most Jamaican slaves came from the region of modern day Ghana, Nigeria and Central Africa, and included the Akan, Ashanti, Yoruba, Ibo and Ibibio peoples.


https://www.embassyofjamaica.org/about_ ... istory.htm

So the question is, looking at that photo above, is her dad a descendent of African slaves or Christopher Columbus? It's a puzzlement, for sure...
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godstud wrote: Harris is not an African American. She's an Indian American(Jamaican isn't African). They are not the same thing by any metric. Indian Americans are the second richest demographic behind Asian Americans. They did not suffer the same problems in the 50s and 60s, and as already shown, there was no segregation in CA after 1947.


Sorry, @Rancid, you're not black.
#15321443
Someone call the Black Entertainment Hall of Fame and get Nicki Minaj's, Rihanna's and Bob Marley's stars taken down, Trump and @Godstud have revealed out they're not black.

Marcus Garvey? Not black!

Candace Owens? Also not black!

First black person to win an Oscar? Don't know who but it wasn't Syndey Poitier.

Colin Powell, the first black Secretary of State? Jamaican-Scottish. Just another white Republican.
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Godstud wrote:In 2015, the shooter registered as a Republican and later donated to the Democrats. A lot can happen in 9 years.


He registered as a Republican in 2021. He was a shooting club member. A classmate said he was "definitely conservative".

Also:

"There were over 700 comments posted; some of these comments, if ultimately attributable to the shooter, appear to reflect antisemitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence and are described as extreme in nature," Abbate told a joint hearing of the Senate Judiciary and Homeland Security committees.

You were the one claiming he was a "left-wing nut". If anything he was a "right-wing nut", most likely he was just a "nut".

It's a Republic so it's not actually a Democracy but a hybrid. Facts scare you? Republic is a superior system to the Westminster system that UK and Canada, etc. use. Change takes longer. It slows societal progress to a manageable rate.


The American political system is generally considered outdated and flawed. FPTP, gerrymandering, electoral college, supreme court judges for life. It sucks in many ways. The UK system would not win a price either. The republic/monarchy distinction is overblown. In particular, there's hardly a difference between a parliamentary republic with a ceremonial president and a constitutional monarchy with a ceremonial monarch.

Godstud wrote:Harris is not an African American. She's an Indian American(Jamaican isn't African).


She's Jamaican American, which makes her half-black. Like Obama. Duh. :knife:
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wat0n wrote:If that is the best Trump can do, he's fucked IMO. At least try finding some dirt on her or something :|


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Trump getting exactly what he wanted, Biden dropping out of the race because he's old and senile, and then demanding a refund of the money he spent campaigning against Biden is the dumbest shit possible.
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Fasces wrote:
Sorry, @Rancid, you're not black.


It's pretty funny that Trump has such a hard time with stuff. :lol: Trump should be worrying about how he's going to beat her at the polls versus if Harris is black or indian or whatever else. Like really, who gives a fuck about that? I guess MAGAs do....

BTW, I don't call myself black, only because in America that means African American. I tend to say I'm Black Latino (although my genetics says I'm 60% European, 30% West African...one drop rule though...) just to make more of a cultural distinction. My ancestors were slaves, but not in the US.
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Rancid wrote:The Biden admin negotiated a multi-country prisoner swap for months.

The release of one Paul Whelan. Someone who Trump failed to get out.

Buut but... Trump is better at foreign policy... :roll:


Trump said he would get them out without doing any hostage exchange. A reporter asked Biden about Trump’s statement. Biden replied, “Then why didn’t he do it when he was president?”
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Hakeer wrote:
Trump said he would get them out without doing any hostage exchange. A reporter asked Biden about Trump’s statement. Biden replied, “Then why didn’t he do it when he was president?”


Because deep state of course!

Queue the pofo-MAGA crew
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Rancid wrote:It's pretty funny that Trump has such a hard time with stuff. :lol: Trump should be worrying about how he's going to beat her at the polls versus if Harris is black or indian or whatever else. Like really, who gives a fuck about that? I guess MAGAs do....

BTW, I don't call myself black, only because in America that means African American. I tend to say I'm Black Latino (although my genetics says I'm 60% European, 30% West African...one drop rule though...) just to make more of a cultural distinction. My ancestors were slaves, but not in the US.



That's the thing about the social construct of race in the U.S.A. , with it's one drop rule . Even if one is just as much , if not more so , something else , the person would still count as being Black . Unless maybe they are also Hispanic . Incidentally , I wonder if , in the event that my sister gives birth to the offspring of her husband to be , whom is Melanesian , would my nephew or niece be regarded as being Black or not , given that the father would be from Papua New Guinea , rather than some African nation ?





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Hakeer wrote:Trump said he would get them out without doing any hostage exchange. A reporter asked Biden about Trump’s statement. Biden replied, “Then why didn’t he do it when he was president?”


That's the thing about Donald Trump . He seems to believe that he can just be this tough guy , and shake down other heads of state . The problem with that though is that there are some politicians whom are at least as fearsome and iron fisted as he is .

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Rancid wrote:It's pretty funny that Trump has such a hard time with stuff. :lol: Trump should be worrying about how he's going to beat her at the polls versus if Harris is black or indian or whatever else. Like really, who gives a fuck about that? I guess MAGAs do....


The Republican platform is basically, "Make life harder for women and non-white people because we are ideologically opposed to actively helping anyone."

Being openly racist is just a Republican delivering on their own promises to their voters.
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Deutschmania wrote:

That's the thing about the social construct of race in the U.S.A. , with it's one drop rule . Even if one is just as much , if not more so , something else , the person would still count as being Black . Unless maybe they are also Hispanic . Incidentally , I wonder if , in the event that my sister gives birth to the offspring of her husband to be , whom is Melanesian , would my nephew or niece be regarded as being Black or not , given that the father would be from Papua New Guinea , rather than some African nation ?







Your Nephew/Niece will be "some kind of Asian". :lol: Odd are, they will think she/he is Hawaiian.
#15321471
Deutschmania wrote:
That's the thing about Donald Trump . He seems to believe that he can just be this tough guy , and shake down other heads of state . The problem with that though is that there are some politicians whom are at least as fearsome and iron fisted as he is .



Those other politicians are also not as restrained as he is by the constitution. THis is the good thing. THis is why we don't like or want dictators. You don't want the executive of the state to have too much power.

MAGAs are fucking morons and don't get it
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@SpecialOlympian You have to be a real piece of shit to call a murderer of a firefighter, as a hero.

It is very ironic that you people are more disgusting that the people that you oppose. God save the USA from the people like you... the true violent fascists, bigots, and racists.

You guys are all fucked up with your priorities and in blind support of dipshit ideologies that denigrate humanity.

@Deutschmania Anyone can identify as anything now that people are so stupid and still want to segregate everyone. He ethnicity shouldn't be relevant, but the Left makes it so.
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