[Skynet]

I like his Youtube clips, but the charges against him are heavy, if true shoot him.


He is like many preachers: preach water, drink vine.

[Truth To Power]

So, Andrew Tate is Muslim?

Apparently. Islam does seem to have been designed specifically to appeal to his type.

[Truth To Power]

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[Truth To Power]

You are very immature and sexually inexperienced (and for once, I'm not using that solely as an insult) if you think this supports any of your points.

First you embarrassed yourself by alluding to my self-evidently imaginary intellectual inferiority, now you are doubling down by imagining my levels of maturity and sexual experience. Time to stop digging.

Women who fantasize about rape are not fantasizing about rape.

Yeah, they are. Just not real rape. I once knew a woman who fantasized about rape, and then she was raped for real, and it was horrible and terrifying -- but it didn't stop her from fantasizing about it.

Men who fantasize about fucking their own mothers (and there are A LOT of those if porn site stats are anything to go by) do not want to fuck their own mothers.

Uh, MILF does not stand for, "my own mom I'd like to <f^k>."

The fulfillment of the fantasy and its implied isolation from real-world consequences are themselves parts of the fantasy, implying a level of control over the fantasized situation that cannot possibly exist in reality.

That's true for almost any erotic fantasy, male or female (which, sorry, there are such things as).

Rape in the real world comes with all kinds of nasty, horrific consequences that rape fantasies conveniently ignore. Things like possibly being murdered, tortured, imprisoned, pregnancy, STD's, severe PTSD, phobias surrounding men, destruction and/or severe damage of intimate and/or familial relationships, loss of any sense of safety, trust in other people, in the law, in society, inability to have intercourse, loss of a sense of autonomy, self-esteem... The list is nearly endless.

How is any of that relevant to the undeniable content of the fantasy?

[Pants-of-dog]

Apparently. Islam does seem to have been designed specifically to appeal to his type.

Since you are apparently defending him…..

[Saeko]

How is any of that relevant to the undeniable content of the fantasy?

Because no one WANTS to deal with the likely real-world consequences of an actual rape. How the hell is that so difficult to understand!?

Your problem is that you're just too lacking in empathy to understand that the content of a rape fantasy is NOT rape. NO ONE wants their agency actually denied them. NO ONE wants to have sex with someone who actually wants to hurt them in some horrifying way. NO ONE.

Uh, MILF does not stand for, "my own mom I'd like to <f^k>."

I'm not talking about the MILFs. I'm talking about all the "step"-mom content.

Yeah, they are. Just not real rape. I once knew a woman who fantasized about rape, and then she was raped for real, and it was horrible and terrifying -- but it didn't stop her from fantasizing about it.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING AND DERANGED YOU SOUND!?!?!?

[Skynet]

@Truth To Power Man can hardly imagine rape, so imagine a fat tall guy is penetrating your ass with his big dick and perhaps-hiv-loaded sperm in you...

[Saeko]

@Truth To Power Man can hardly imagine rape, so imagine a fat tall guy is penetrating your ass with his big dick and perhaps-hiv-loaded sperm in you...

Better yet, imagine that the woman of your dreams shows up to your house and says she wants to have sex with you. You let her tie you up and you think you're about to have the kinkiest time of your life. But then she takes out her huge, spiked dragon dildo, shoves it inside you and laughs and records as you scream in unimaginable pain and terror.

Take your time and just try to imagine what it would actually be like to be completely at the mercy of someone to whom there is no limit to how much damage they would be willing to do to you. That's what experiencing rape is like.

People who fantasize about "rape" always conveniently leave out the part where their "rapist" would actually do them harm. The fantasy "rapist" never even wants to take things in a direction where you would actually be unwilling to go. A real rapist absolutely will.

[wat0n]

Just because some people like role paying sexy cops doesn't mean they want to be arrested.

Jeez.

[Truth To Power]

Since you are apparently defending him…..

No, only his rights to liberty and freedom of speech.

See how that works?

Or do you think Muslims only have a right to profess an absurd, disgusting, and evil belief when it is Islam?

[Truth To Power]

Because no one WANTS to deal with the likely real-world consequences of an actual rape. How the hell is that so difficult to understand!?

It's easy to understand. It's just not relevant.

Your problem is that you're just too lacking in empathy to understand that the content of a rape fantasy is NOT rape. NO ONE wants their agency actually denied them. NO ONE wants to have sex with someone who actually wants to hurt them in some horrifying way. NO ONE.

Your problem is that you're just too lacking in willingness to know facts to understand that Tate is selling a fantasy, not reality.

I'm not talking about the MILFs. I'm talking about all the "step"-mom content.

Oh, you mean the "moms" who are self-evidently too young to be the men's mothers?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING AND DERANGED YOU SOUND!?!?!?

I'm not responsible for your inability to face facts.

[Pants-of-dog]

No, only his rights to liberty and freedom of speech.

See how that works?

Or do you think Muslims only have a right to profess an absurd, disgusting, and evil belief when it is Islam?

Then you need to be more clear.

And if you are not defending him, then why are you using misogynistic pseudoscience to justify sexual assault?

[Truth To Power]

Then you need to be more clear.

And if you are not defending him, then why are you using misogynistic pseudoscience to justify sexual assault?

Just can't help makin' $#!+ up, can you?

[SpecialOlympian]

I don't exculpate men who vote for Trump any more than I exculpate women who put out for him. Same with men who buy whatever Tate is selling, and the women who provide it.

You do excuse sexual predators when you mock their victims for being stupid. I don't know how this is hard for you to understand, and I hope you can grow someday.

Like dude stop being a creep at least pretend you learned something about the most minimal standards of consent and emotional intimacy. Yeah, those women were stupid for having an absolute, practiced psycho pretend to be in love with them. Nobody plans for that.

Tate was an absolute psycho working similar to a cult; he kept reaching out. Maybe 1 in 1,000 women he reaches out to is in a vulnerable and suggestible place, and he preys on that. Because that's his job, he's a predator. That's how people like Tate work; a numbers game of abusing people until you find someone who is vulnerable enough to be Renfielded.

[Pants-of-dog]

@Truth To Power

Stop swearing.

Calm down.

Write your argument out clearly.

At this point, the logical conclusion is that you are defending Tate and his sexism.

[Truth To Power]

You do excuse sexual predators when you mock their victims for being stupid.

Garbage. I can mock the people who are dumb enough to fall for crypto scams, MLM pitches, or religious cults -- i.e., any religion, but especially the self-evidently idiotic ones like Mormonism, Scientology, Islam, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Christian televangelists -- without excusing the scammers.

Yeah, those women were stupid for having an absolute, practiced psycho pretend to be in love with them. Nobody plans for that.

See above.

Tate was an absolute psycho working similar to a cult; he kept reaching out. Maybe 1 in 1,000 women he reaches out to is in a vulnerable and suggestible place, and he preys on that. Because that's his job, he's a predator. That's how people like Tate work; a numbers game of abusing people until you find someone who is vulnerable enough to be Renfielded.

Do you think reminding the crypto saps, MLM suckers, and religious zombies that they are being played excuses the scumbags who prey on them?

[Truth To Power]

At this point, the logical conclusion is that you are defending Tate and his sexism.

Try to get it through your head: identifying the facts of biology that make many women easier prey for people like Andrew Tate is not defending Andrew Tate.

[Truth To Power]

@Truth To Power Man can hardly imagine rape, so imagine a fat tall guy is penetrating your ass with his big dick and perhaps-hiv-loaded sperm in you...

See Norm MacDonald on the deterrent value of prison rape.

[Pants-of-dog]

Try to get it through your head: identifying the facts of biology that make many women easier prey for people like Andrew Tate is not defending Andrew Tate.

Again, what is your argument?

Please write it out clearly.

[SpecialOlympian]

I got a fact of biology right here for you, Truth-To-Power

*I grab my crotch and thrust toward him*

How the fuck did you pivot from:

"Some people are stupid, they deserve sexual abuse."

To

"Andrew Tate is simply a man preying on women as nature demands."

Like you have somehow regressed to a stupider position in your need to be defiant while being called wrong. It's OK to grow dude, nobody here will be mean to you for it. That's the point of PoFo. Qatz used to ride a bicycle and now he owns a Hummer, and we support him. He can wear regular jeans now because his calves aren't all fucked up and swollen.