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Ukraine's counter attack is nice.

But hope that you don't get Putin to a point where he can use chemical or atomic bombs. Keep in mind that you are not dealing with a democratic leader. Putin is a dictator. He can do crazy things that result very badly for the earth.
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By litwin
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Istanbuller wrote:Ukrain's move is so brave. I remember that when Turkey shoot down a Russian jet, we were shitting in pants. Like all countries in the region, we are scared of Russia.

you are 100% correct .

Moscow propagandacondoms :
▪️"We can lose"
▪️"We might have to sacrifice our border regions."

https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/18 ... 5343659122
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Muslim Kadyrovites:

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https://x.com/osint_69/status/1824141667143762148




102 maskal soldiers surrendered

https://x.com/i/status/1824072521156608306

I think our boys are not capturing them so much as just collecting them. :lol:
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By Skynet
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Istanbuller wrote:Ukraine's counter attack is nice.

But hope that you don't get Putin to a point where he can use chemical or atomic bombs. Keep in mind that you are not dealing with a democratic leader. Putin is a dictator. He can do crazy things that result very badly for the earth.



When Putin loses the Battle of Kursk he will use nukes!!!

He has the biggest and most moderne nuclear arsenal.

As secret agent he has a clue about nukes but the from millitary does he not understand much.

If he had attacked Ukraine with full force (over 1 Million Soldiers) he would have won the war... Ukraine is supplied by 62 countries with weapons..


China has to support Putin because Russia would be an important ally in A Taiwan war... China needs Russia as Weaponsmanufacturer... for example Chinese newest tanks can just fire 2 shots in 1 hour (30 min break)... The Iwan can construct weapons but not chips...
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Skynet wrote:When Putin loses the Battle of Kursk he will use nukes!!!

He has the biggest and most moderne nuclear arsenal.

As secret agent he has a clue about nukes but the from millitary does he not understand much.

If he had attacked Ukraine with full force (over 1 Million Soldiers) he would have won the war... Ukraine is supplied by 62 countries with weapons..


China has to support Putin because Russia would be an important ally in A Taiwan war... China needs Russia as Weaponsmanufacturer... for example Chinese newest tanks can just fire 2 shots in 1 hour (30 min break)... The Iwan can construct weapons but not chips...


If Putin attempts to even try to use nuclear weapons then NATO will pre-emptively attack all the launch sites and submarines and join Ukraine on its side. And it doesn't matter if its a tactical nuke or strategic nuke. On top of that China will invade in Siberia.
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By Skynet
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@JohnRawls I doubt the core of the NATO the USA has interests in a scenarios which could lead to nuclear winter... Ukraine is ideal for weakening Russia, not more not less...
#15322401
Skynet wrote:When Putin loses the Battle of Kursk he will use nukes!!!

He has the biggest and most moderne nuclear arsenal.

As secret agent he has a clue about nukes but the from millitary does he not understand much.

If he had attacked Ukraine with full force (over 1 Million Soldiers) he would have won the war... Ukraine is supplied by 62 countries with weapons..


China has to support Putin because Russia would be an important ally in A Taiwan war... China needs Russia as Weaponsmanufacturer... for example Chinese newest tanks can just fire 2 shots in 1 hour (30 min break)... The Iwan can construct weapons but not chips...


No, he won´t , want a bet ?

Corpses of FSB officers in a captured stronghold in the Kursk region.

https://x.com/i/status/1824120177199325332
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Skynet wrote:@JohnRawls I doubt the core of the NATO the USA has interests in a scenarios which could lead to nuclear winter... Ukraine is ideal for weakening Russia, not more not less...


Crazy guy using weapons in a war that he started because he is loosing is a threat leading to nuclear war. As you correctly understand, nobody wants that in Europe, US or China. So Russia will be ripped apart for doing it.
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By Skynet
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JohnRawls wrote:Crazy guy using weapons in a war that he started because he is loosing is a threat leading to nuclear war. As you correctly understand, nobody wants that in Europe, US or China. So Russia will be ripped apart for doing it.


No matter which Ideology all who can rule the world, wants not to destroy the planet in a nuclear
war...



it has become a question of suvival for both nations... one nation will cease to exist...


or it will lead to peace... --> Equilibrium of force
By wat0n
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The disarray of Russia's army is evident here, however, I don't think that:

1) Ukraine will push too deep into Kursk, that could end up backfiring just like Russia's deep advance in Ukraine itself did. That's why the Ukrainians are setting up fortifications within the territory they've taken thus far.

2) NATO would retaliate using nukes if Russia nuked a non-member like Ukraine.

3) Russia will nuke Ukraine.
By Rancid
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JohnRawls wrote:
Crazy guy using weapons in a war that he started because he is loosing is a threat leading to nuclear war. As you correctly understand, nobody wants that in Europe, US or China. So Russia will be ripped apart for doing it.


Indeed, it would be foolish to believe that the rest of the world is going to blame Ukraine for Russia pulling the trigger on a nuke. Then again, the Pro-Putin crowds are pro-bully, so they basically just go along with whatever dumbshit bully fake excuses they can make.
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By Skynet
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Rancid wrote:Russia is the first nuclear nation to get invaded by a non-nuclear nation..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


How could Ukraine assemble so many troops for an big offensive???

They are now digen in so to remove them there needs first x million artillery shells then infantry...


The Russians have a ww2 commanding style, whereas Ukrainian officers on the ground can make their own decisions instead to follow stupidly orders... and wait until Putin in his bunker without smartphone decides...

with this outdated commanding style Saddam lost several tankbattles.
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By Skynet
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According an German General on "Welt TV" is this intrusion a PR-stunt to deflect attention about Russian gaines in the Donbass... 2-3 weeks is the intrusion over.


I think it is time to negotiate as long as Ukraine has Russian soil occupated
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Skynet wrote:They are now digen in so to remove them there needs first x million artillery shells then infantry...


I don't think the Ukrainians want to hang around in Kursk for the main counter-attack by Russians. But so far the Russians have not been able to muster an adequate force to really challenge them. This is partly because Ukrainian's are targeting Russian transport logistics to thwart reinforcements - including a reported himar strike on one column. So far its working for them - still gaining ground and causing a big headache for Putin. So don't stop yet. Make hay while the sun shines I say - but as soon as Russia eventually gets their act together and organizes a decent force to counter them - get the hell out of there and declare a moral victory.
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Skynet wrote:How could Ukraine assemble so many troops for an big offensive???

They are now digen in so to remove them there needs first x million artillery shells then infantry...


The Russians have a ww2 commanding style, whereas Ukrainian officers on the ground can make their own decisions instead to follow stupidly orders... and wait until Putin in his bunker without smartphone decides...

with this outdated commanding style Saddam lost several tankbattles.


Because Syrsky actually has a plan as I wrote so many many many pages ago.

The plan is simple, stay on the defensive and let Russia conduct it meat charges. They deplete Russian material and manpower with a very good ratio for Ukraine. Yeah they seed a bit of ground for lives and time. Meanwhile they build up their own stocks, production, units in the back and then when they see Russia depleted in some regions they counter attack like they did in Kursk.

Russia is bashing itself against a wall by removing bricks of its own wall from other sectors. So when Russian wall weakens in some sector then Ukraine attacks. Since the wall is weak in that sector then it quickly crumbles and Russia needs to move its wall from other sectors again to build it up again. Its a systematic approach at dismembering the Russian army piece by piece, slice by slice over a long war of attrition. Defeat in detail just for attritional war I suppose?

Artillery shells production and supplies are only growing and will grow for years now. Drone production already surpassed Russias when it comes to FPVs with Ukranian advantge being 5 to 1 or so on average. Yeah Ukraine doesn't produce that much missiles but long range drones and fpvs it is miles ahead of Russia. Artillery ammo is more or less equalising as Russia shoots out the shitty NK ammo or whatever it has and EU/US production rapidly growing. Air advantage will continue to deteriorate for Russia as more anti-air batteries arrive along with F-16. May be Gripen also will arrive and as with artillery we might start providing cutting edge missiles at some point. We basically do that with Artillery. And finally may be we will give access to Ukraine to NATO secure communications protocols for C4/C5+Istar whatever especially for airplanes to use with AWACSes.
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Istanbuller wrote:Ukrain's move is so brave.

Easy for the Zelensky regime to be "brave" when it is funded by oligarchs and doesn't care how many Ukrainians it kills with its war-for-Oligarch-ownership-of-Central Asia.


I remember that when Turkey shoot down a Russian jet, we were shitting in pants. Like all countries in the region, we are scared of Russia.

As we should be. Shooting missiles at Russia for oligarchs... demonstrates that Western oligarchs care as little about my life or yours as the Zelensky project cares about Ukrainians.

They clap for Nazis and genocide, why do you think they care about us nobodies?
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