[JohnRawls]

MAGA people "TRUMP WON the debate" and also them "HARRIS HAD AN EAR PEACE INSTEAD OF HER EARING", "THE ORGANISERS WERE BIASED AND SHOULD BE FIRED", "THE POLLS ARE RIGGED ON THE DEBATE", "HE TOTALY TOTALY TOTALY GOT HER", "FOX NEWS IS FUCKING LEFT WING BULLSHIT RAG"....



Also more popcorn for the new Fox news add apparently:

[annatar1914]

MAGA people "TRUMP WON the debate" and also them "HARRIS HAD AN EAR PEACE INSTEAD OF HER EARING", "THE ORGANISERS WERE BIASED AND SHOULD BE FIRED", "THE POLLS ARE RIGGED ON THE DEBATE", "HE TOTALY TOTALY TOTALY GOT HER", "FOX NEWS IS FUCKING LEFT WING BULLSHIT RAG"....



Also more popcorn for the new Fox news add apparently:

@JohnRawls :

Wow Forest Brother, you write just like Litwin now, congratulations!

[Rancid]

Yea, I saw that they are bitching and whining, making up excuses for Trump. As usual.

@Deutschmania, if the fascist hell is ushered in with Trump. I think we should consider not posting on pofo anymore to stay safe. That son of bitch is ready to go after anyone and everyone that say's even the slightest of things.

I'm being 50% serious right now, but given what a piece of shit Trump is. I might have to get 100% serious about that. Trump is a danger to freedom of speech.

[JohnRawls]

@JohnRawls :

Wow Forest Brother, you write just like Litwin now, congratulations!

Thank you for the Forest Brother compliment. Being a freedom fighter and all that is the highest honor in my book.

[JohnRawls]

Now we should eagerly await 19th or 20th of September when Trump is gonna rug pull his Truth Social stock when the lockup of stock expires

Gonna be fun. Come on Trump, you can do it, you can tank your own polls and the whole Republican party with you.

[Rancid]

Now we should eagerly await 19th or 20th of September when Trump is gonna rug pull his Truth Social stock when the lockup of stock expires

You think he will actually do it? I guess he doesn't have faith that he can turn Truth social into a profit making machine? If he became president he might ban X to give Truth social a boost.

[JohnRawls]

You think he will actually do it? I guess he doesn't have faith that he can turn Truth social into a profit making machine? If he became president he might ban X to give Truth social a boost.

Anybody knows that Truth Social is a money pit with no money generation and trading significantly more than it should be even by IT stock standards. He won't bann X since he doesn't want Elon to switch back to being normal. The whole reason why Elon went insane is because his son had a transgender surgery(And Elon not being there apparently for his kids with his daughter also disowning him) but even he won't tolerate somebody fucking with his companies I guess.

[Deutschmania]

Pertaining to my previous post , Jill Stein has critiqued last night's presidential debate , which she was not invited to participate in , and has succeeded in gaining ground with regards to the support of Muslim voters , in crucial swing states . To reiterate , Kamala Harris must placate the concerns of such disgruntled voters , if she is to prevail against Trump . Otherwise , Trump just might be able to utilize such wedge issues , and minor party candidates , to divide and overcome the opposition .

New York, New York - Green Party presidential nominee Dr. Jill Stein delivered a scathing response to Democrat Kamala Harris and Republican Donald Trump's first 2024 debate on Tuesday and urged voters to turn away from the two-party system. " This is a debate between the parties of war and Wall Street who agree with each other on the fundamentals of our economy and on the fundamentals of our foreign policy – basically a foreign policy based on endless war and the endless war machine, which then in turn costs half of our congressional budget," Stein said during a live broadcast Tuesday night. Stein slammed Harris and Trump for failing to address the crises of poverty, housing and homelessness, health care costs, student debt, privatization, and militarism as they took the debate stage in Philadelphia earlier that evening.
The Green Party is running to bring a new vision to the Oval Office, one that centers human rights at home and abroad.

"We are the alternative that you won't hear about. We are the solutions that Democrats and Republicans refuse to discuss," Stein said.

"In particular, the Democrats approach us by trying to shut us down, to silence us, to cancel us, because they're very threatened by the fact we actually provide real solutions here instead of just parroting Republicans or moving to the right or providing no policies at all.". In her post-debate remarks, Stein accused both major-party candidates of failing to provide solutions that address the root causes of key issues, with immigration a case in point.

"That migration crisis that Donald Trump loves to endlessly bash immigrants over is basically a consequence of US foreign policy, which is driving people to our shores for refuge. And sadly, we see the Democrats, who at one time stood up for principles of justice for immigrants, for addressing the underlying drivers, we don't hear about that anymore at all," Stein lamented. She went on to detail how the US has historically sought to undermine and overthrow democratically elected leaders in Central and South America in favor of rightwing dictators, driving genocides and social upheavals which have left many with little choice but to leave.

Trump's response to Southern border crossings has been to demonize migrants and threaten mass deportations. Harris' has been to promote a so-called "border security" package which would send even more law enforcement to the borderlands and increase ICE detention capacity.

A Green administration, Stein promised, would end the War on Drugs and weaken violent cartels by legalizing marijuana on Day One and proceeding to decriminalize all drugs after that. Instead of investing in walls, funds would go toward building the necessary infrastructure to process asylum applications quickly and to provide people the papers they need to go to work right away.

"Border security is not obtained by a wall," Stein insisted. "Border security is achieved by, number one, decompressing the migration crisis by eliminating the drivers of that migration crisis."

Ending the Gaza genocide
Stein has made Palestinian freedom a cornerstone of her campaign. After Tuesday's debate, she once again criticized both Harris and Trump for enabling the destruction of Gaza by vowing to continue military and diplomatic support to the apartheid state of Israel.

The presidential hopeful said her administration would enact a weapons embargo on Israel and prioritize the return of stolen land and homes to original owners in the West Bank, in adherence with international law. "If we turn the White House into a Green House and make the world a better place by doing that, on Day One – or I should say, actually the day after the election – I pick up the phone and I am calling [Israeli Prime Minister] Bibi Netanyahu to tell him the genocide is over."

The Green Party nominee also blasted Democrats' and Republicans' violent responses to anti-war protests in the US as an attack on the rights of free speech and assembly. She rejected equating anti-Zionism with antisemitism as a means of silencing dissent.

"As a Jew, I would say that if you say it's antisemitic to oppose genocide, in my view, that is the most antisemitic thing you could possibly say," Stein said.

"I say it is a core Jewish value to oppose genocide. It is a core Muslim value to oppose genocide. It is a core Christian value. It is a core human value."

Investing in real solutions

By significantly reducing the US military budget, the Green Party wants to redirect government spending into meeting the true needs of the American people, including social housing, reparations for Black Americans, Medicare For All, and major climate investments.

On Day One, Stein said she would declare a climate emergency and unleash $1 trillion in funds to begin implementing the party's signature Green New Deal, which calls for a 100% clean renewable energy transition by 2030, massive investments in green businesses and infrastructure, and an end to fossil fuel extraction.

She contrasted her response to the global climate crisis with the Biden-Harris administration's Inflation Reduction Act. The policy – which Harris touted on the debate stage – set aside $369 billion for green energy projects while mandating continued oil and gas drilling.

The major-party candidates also failed to adequately address the health care crisis, which remains an existential issue for many Americans despite the introduction of the Affordable Care Act under Democratic President Barack Obama.

"We didn't hear about Medicare For All," the Harvard-trained physician said. "They don't want you to know about Medicare For All because it not only provides care for everyone, it also saves one out of every three health care dollars."

The Green Party promotes a publicly-owned, democratically controlled health care service, which would cover reproductive, dental, hearing, vision, and chronic care. Stein said such a system would expand health coverage while also reducing costs by half a trillion per year.

These transformative solutions are by no means out of reach. Stein encouraged supporters to reject the two-party system and to continue organizing for justice, because if the 2024 election cycle has proved anything, it's that anything can happen.

"We have a perfect storm for building our power right now," she urged. "Let's seize the moment together." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jill-stein-delivers-scathing-response-to-harris-trump-debate-and-urges-green-alternative/ar-AA1qoTPO

A new report from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) shows that Jill Stein, the Lexington, Massachusetts, resident and Green Party candidate for president, is leading Democratic nominee Kamala Harris among Muslim voters in several key swing states.

The analysis expands on a survey conducted late last month that showed Muslim voters nationally split between Harris and Stein, even thought 69% of the respondents said they usually vote for the Democratic Party. The new analysis dug deeper into the data, specifically looking at voters in swing states.

In Michigan, 40% of Muslim voters said they plan to vote for Stein, compared to just 12% who said they plan to vote for Harris. Stein also received significant support from Muslim voters in Wisconsin, where 44% said they plan to vote for her compared to 39% who said they’ll back Harris. And in Arizona, Stein draws support from 35% of Muslim voters, compared to 29% for Harris.

According to the website World Population Review, Michigan has a Muslim population of more than 241,000, meaning that Stein’s substantial lead there — if it holds — could have a decisive impact on who ultimately wins that state. The website FiveThirtyEight currently shows Harris leading Republican nominee Donald Trump in Michigan by 1.9%.

A similar dynamic applies in Arizona and Wisconsin, where World Population Review puts the Muslim population at about 110,000 and 68,000, respectively. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Trump a 0.5% lead in Arizona and Harris a 2.8% lead in Wisconsin.

“When you have a candidate like Stein being a third-party candidate in these states, she has the potential to disrupt all these elections,” said Robert McCaw, CAIR’s national government affairs director and one of the authors of the report. “And how all candidates appeal to Muslim voters will really determine who might be the next president of the United States.

”From a Muslim civil rights organization’s perspective, we’re really challenging Muslims to turn out to vote regardless of which candidate they [choose], knowing that they can have an impact on the election,“ McCaw added. Stein previously ran for president in both 2012 and 2016, when she received about 1% of the vote nationally. While Stein’s total tally in 2016 was modest, an argument can be made that the votes she received in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that year ultimately helped Trump become president. Stein was also a candidate for governor of Massachusetts in 2002 and 2010, and for secretary of the commonwealth in 2006.

Stein’s 2024 platform calls, among other things, for an “immediate ceasefire in Israel and Palestine” and an immediate end to all U.S. military aid to Israel. She has also called for an independent investigation into “the legality of the billions for direct military aid” and suggested that prosecution by the International Criminal Court may be warranted.

In a statement provided to GBH News, Stein said: “We’re grateful for the strong support of Muslim voters who share with us the determination to end genocide in Gaza, and the injustice faced by our Muslim friends. We urge all people of conscience to resist the propaganda telling you to hold your nose and vote for genocide.

”If you vote for genocide, you are actively consenting to it and enabling it,“ Stein added. ”Don’t let them talk you out of your humanity. Stopping genocide is the moral imperative of our time.“

After President Joe Biden dropped his re-election bid, Harris made remarks that were interpreted by some as indicating that she is more pro-Palestinian than Biden. But others argue that on a substantive level, Harris has maintained Biden’s approach to the Israel-Hamas war. At the recent Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Harris asserted Israel’s fundamental right to defend itself during her acceptance speech, and pro-Palestinian activists who had hoped to secure a speaking slot have said they were rebuffed.

The Harris campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

According to CAIR’s analysis, Harris leads Stein among Muslim voters in other swing states, including Georgia (43% to 17%), Pennsylvania (37% to 25%), and Nevada (26% to 13%, with Trump at 27%). According to World Population Review, the Muslim population of those states is approximately 124,000, 150,000 and 7,000, respectively.

FiveThirtyEight currently shows Harris leading Georgia by 0.3%, Pennsylvania by 0.6% and Nevada by 0.5%.

During the Democratic presidential primaries, when Biden was the party’s presumptive nominee, activists opposed to the administration’s policy on the Israel-Hamas war urged voters to remain uncommitted in several states. In Michigan, more than 100,000 uncommitted votes were ultimately cast, and in Hawaii, “uncommitted” received 29% of the vote.

The new report also highlights some notable differences inside the national Muslim electorate. For example, while Harris enjoys a sizable lead over Stein among Black Muslim voters (55% to 11%), Stein fares better with white, Arab and Turkic Muslims (33% to 26%). The discrepancy is smaller among Asian Muslims, with 28% backing Harris and 26% backing Stein.

Support for the two candidates also varies by gender. Harris leads among Muslim men with 29% support, while Stein leads among Muslim women with 34% support. https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-09-09/stein-leads-harris-among-muslim-voters-in-several-swing-states-new-analysis-finds

[SpecialOlympian]

They are really doubling down on the Haitians eat people’s pet cats thing now lol. Pathetic.

I don’t know how the Trump party will recover when he dies. It’s going to be knives out, every idiot for himself trying to claim the crown. And none of them have the charisma to make the rest of the lowly worms bow to them in the same way.

They’re straight up trying to argue that 20,000 Haitians are terrorizing Springfield, Ohio. As if this resonates with anyone. I don’t think there are that many undecided voters, but playing playing the Weird Al Version of “BLM is burning down our cities,” is not inspiring people to come out and vote. It’s just making your party look like they have to make the racist conspiracy shit drunk peepaw shouted at Thanksgiving was actually true.

That wasn’t a Turkey we ate. Peepaw was right. The Haitian grocer gave us a stuffed cat for dinner lol

[SpecialOlympian]

This is the culmination of the Republican party talking point machine.



"Uh, I heard an idiot say something extremely racist that affirms my worldview. They didn't have any proof, but migrants are destroying America and eating our pets. Also Democratic OBGYNs are taking your baby out and murdering it, just strangling it right there in the hospital in front of you."

Do Twitter embeds not work on this forum anymore? I don't think anything is lost, but it seems like they don't.

[JohnRawls]

This is the culmination of the Republican party talking point machine.

https://x.com/Yamiche/status/1833836021349302733

"Uh, I heard an idiot say something extremely racist that affirms my worldview. They didn't have any proof, but migrants are destroying America and eating our pets. Also Democratic OBGYNs are taking your baby out and murdering it, just strangling it right there in the hospital in front of you."

Do Twitter embeds not work on this forum anymore? I don't think anything is lost, but it seems like they don't.

https://x.com/NoahGarfinkel/status/1833708370974695574

Look at the link, you gave x.com just use the proper twitter.com or replace by hand.

[SpecialOlympian]

Oh that worked, thank you. Lmao everyone but Elon forgot about the rebranding.

I figured whatever BBCode forums software or whatever would automatically account for that so it never occured to me to check the URL but nope, nobody fucking cares about X.

Also, just remembering the Elon & Trump interview on Twitter:

Elon: "Uhh, you know, uhh, I don't think every immigrant who comes into America is necessarily a, uhh, criminal, uhh, or a rapist, uhh"

Trump: "They're all rapists, they're raping you right now."

Elon: "Uhhh, you're, uh, right, uh, so what was it, uh, like to, uh, get shot, uh? Uh?"

Trump: "NOT FUN."

That is one of the more fun things about Trump going on interviews. He's obviously traumatized from his near death experience but he is condemned to interview people who ask him the dumbest fucking questions about a moment he doesn't want to relive, up to some streamer gifting him a Tesla Truck with the moment after he was shot emblazoned on the side.

Who wouldn't want to ride around in a shitty deathmobile emblazoned with the scariest moment of your life on it?



You might as well gift Jackie Onassis a Cadillac convertible with a wrap of her crying and cradling the soup that was her husband's brains in her arms in the Dallas motorcade lmao.

[Hakeer]

Later this month, Zelenskyy will be in the U.S. to present his full plan to Biden, Harris, and Trump. Among other things, it will surely include U.S. approval to supply and authorize long-range bombs against military targets deep inside Russia. Zelenskyy hopes this will pressure Putin to agree to end the war. Biden worries that it will pressure Putin into using nukes in Ukraine, attack NATO resources, or who knows what else, including what additional aid China might offer Russia. It’s a big crap shoot and voters want to hear from Harris and Trump. Will Harris endorse whatever Biden says, or dance around it with vague rhetoric? Will Trump finally answer the question he would not answer in the debate: Does he want Ukraine to win this war? Or will he duck the question and hide under his bed?

[Istanbuller]

Later this month, Zelenskyy will be in the U.S. to present his full plan to Biden, Harris, and Trump. Among other things, it will surely include U.S. approval to supply and authorize long-range bombs against military targets deep inside Russia. Zelenskyy hopes this will pressure Putin to agree to end the war. Biden worries that it will pressure Putin into using nukes in Ukraine, attack NATO resources, or who knows what else, including what additional aid China might offer Russia. It’s a big crap shoot and voters want to hear from Harris and Trump. Will Harris endorse whatever Biden says, or dance around it with vague rhetoric? Will Trump finally answer the question he would not answer in the debate: Does he want Ukraine to win this war? Or will he duck the question and hide under his bed?

Hope he agrees to end the war. Otherwise, things may escalate to nuclear war as you mentioned.

[Hakeer]

Hope he agrees to end the war. Otherwise, things may escalate to nuclear war as you mentioned.

We don’t know Putin’s level of mental stability. Will he use nukes? Will he stop after taking Ukraine, or will he then go for the Balkans? Does he see himself on a mission to rebuild an empire? Who knows? I don’t.

But we do need to hear more from both Harris and Trump. Soon.

[JohnRawls]

[SpecialOlympian]

The cat lady who eats cats.

Edit: Looked normal sized on my phone but Trump is now sharing AI generated photos of himself saving cats and cats begging him to help stop all the evil Dems from eating them.

[wat0n]

A Chilean journalist pressing Stephen Miller

[Rancid]

A Chilean journalist pressing Stephen Miller

I would love for Trump to leave for Venezuela if he loses the election.

Bye! Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[Agent Steel]

Yea, I saw that they are bitching and whining, making up excuses for Trump. As usual.

@Deutschmania, if the fascist hell is ushered in with Trump. I think we should consider not posting on pofo anymore to stay safe. That son of bitch is ready to go after anyone and everyone that say's even the slightest of things.

I'm being 50% serious right now, but given what a piece of shit Trump is. I might have to get 100% serious about that. Trump is a danger to freedom of speech.

You have a bit of a nasty demeanor, cussing out this man and so forth.

I watched the debate with an open mind. I thought it was a spirited and energetic debate whereby Trump strongly countered most of Kamala's lies, and did so with sharpness and wit. Harris' answers sounded rehearsed and written down.

Trump appeared stronger, sharper, and more dominant overall, therefore I think he won the debate.