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#15327156
wat0n wrote:Thanks.

Their evidence consists on simply denying the evidence provided by Israel of the military use of the hospitals they mentioned, even publicly available evidence like the arms shown at Al Shifa :lol:


The only hope for the Arabs living near Israel - faced with the Super-trolls of Hasbara and the Super-arms of the USA and the Super-Egos of the various Euro-cults... is Saddam and Osama.

#15327160
QatzelOk wrote:The only hope for the Arabs living near Israel - faced with the Super-trolls of Hasbara and the Super-arms of the USA and the Super-Egos of the various Euro-cults... is Saddam and Osama.



A better approach would be to just negotiate with Israel like Egypt and Jordan did. It's worked okay for both.
#15327161
wat0n wrote:A better approach would be to just negotiate with Israel like Egypt and Jordan did. It's worked okay for both.


Or like Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Egypt in 1956?

Also, how is it possible to negotiate with people who are racist against your group?

Should black males have tried "negotiating" with the KKK in the 19th Century? Would that have been your advice: "Just put out the burning cross on your lawn and try to negotiate with those hooded people."?
#15327163
QatzelOk wrote:Or like Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Egypt in 1956?


There were no peace negotiations back then.

Yet in the end this approach has served Egypt and Jordan just fine.

QatzelOk wrote:Also, how is it possible to negotiate with people who are racist against your group?

Should black males have tried "negotiating" with the KKK in the 19th Century? Would that have been your advice: "Just put out the burning cross on your lawn and try to negotiate with those hooded people."?


You mean how can Israel negotiate with Arabs who are racist against Jews? Israel did so just fine with the Egyptians, Jordanians and Emiratis.
#15327243
Trying to turn the tables on my KKk analogy, wat0n wrote:...how can Israel negotiate with Arabs who are racist against Jews?...


Many Arabs are Jews themselves (Arab Jews are a plurality in Israel), so the wording of your sentence reveals a profound confusion on your part regarding the role of "race" versus the role of the scams of organized crime pretending to be a "race" or a "religion."

Like the KKK, you, wat0n, confute the colorful robes and gang affiliation of bankster racism with "religion" rather than with organized crime.

Perhaps many religions lead to organized crime gangs, but to pretend that the genocide in Israel is a "race war" ignores the important role of Big Money (and organized crime) in creating the Arab-death-state that both Western oil companies and banksters have always pined for.
#15327245
QatzelOk wrote:Many Arabs are Jews themselves (Arab Jews are a plurality in Israel), so the wording of your sentence reveals a profound confusion on your part regarding the role of "race" versus the role of the scams of organized crime pretending to be a "race" or a "religion."

Like the KKK, you, wat0n, confute the colorful robes and gang affiliation of bankster racism with "religion" rather than with organized crime.

Perhaps many religions lead to organized crime gangs, but to pretend that the genocide in Israel is a "race war" ignores the important role of Big Money (and organized crime) in creating the Arab-death-state that both Western oil companies and banksters have always pined for.


This sounds like a straw man.

It is factually correct that Jews have been discriminated against in the Arab world, even before the establishment of Israel. This did not somehow mean Israel couldn't sign peace treaties/normalize relations with Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco.
#15327247
wat0n wrote:...It is factually correct that Jews have been discriminated against in the Arab world, even before the establishment of Israel. This did not somehow mean Israel couldn't sign peace treaties/normalize relations with Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco.

Being discriminated against... doesn't mean you're not a harmful troll.

And if Israel has managed to sign treaties with Arabs, this is probably due to its widely successful bribery and extortion program.

Likewise, the Brits and Yanks signed many treaties with "Injuns" that they eventually broke as they extended their genocidal trails of tears.
#15327249
QatzelOk wrote:Being discriminated against... doesn't mean you're not a harmful troll.

And if Israel has managed to sign treaties with Arabs, this is probably due to its widely successful bribery and extortion program.

Likewise, the Brits and Yanks signed many treaties with "Injuns" that they eventually broke as they extended their genocidal trails of tears.


Sounds like you're mad that Israel has been able to sign peace treaties with its neighbors, and that they're gradually coming to terms with its existence.

Are you sure you're not the one being racist and fantasizing with genocide here?
#15327400
wat0n wrote:Sounds like you're mad...

You mean "angry," correct.

You are saying that I must be "angry" to mention the bribery and extortion that Israel has been publicly exposed committing.

But I'm not angry at all. I am just trying to write logical sentences with conclusions that have been drawn from the information that is available to me.

I don't have an agenda. My texts are driven by incoming information.

Now, look at yourself in the mirror and say the same thing: "I don't have an agenda. I am grazing on available information and making conclusive statements based on this incoming information filtered through what I have studied regarding politics and resource distribution."


Say this to the mirror 15 time each morning, and 20 times just before bedtime.

You should be healed within a few weeks. 8)
#15327401
QatzelOk wrote:You mean "angry," correct.

You are saying that I must be "angry" to mention the bribery and extortion that Israel has been publicly exposed committing.

But I'm not angry at all. I am just trying to write logical sentences with conclusions that have been drawn from the information that is available to me.

I don't have an agenda. My texts are driven by incoming information.

Now, look at yourself in the mirror and say the same thing: "I don't have an agenda. I am grazing on available information and making conclusive statements based on this incoming information filtered through what I have studied regarding politics and resource distribution."


Say this to the mirror 15 time each morning, and 20 times just before bedtime.

You should be healed within a few weeks. 8)


:lol:

In other news, Sinwar was killed last night - his death has been confirmed by DNA testing and matching dental records - and Netanyahu is offering safe passage to remaining Hamas fighters in exchange for releasing whatever hostages they hold and surrendering their arms.
#15327404
wat0n wrote:...Sinwar was killed last night...

So you can add "assasinations and mass murder" to the extortion and bribery.

Nice operation you're supporting.
#15327407
QatzelOk wrote:So you can add "assasinations and mass murder" to the extortion and bribery.

Nice operation you're supporting.


You mean what Sinwar did? :lol:

I know you're in mourning, you might want to log off for a while to pay your respects.
#15327425
I'm confused. Israel told me Sinwar was a billionaire who hid away in Qatar while his people died for him. But now I find out he was some epic action hero dying for what he believed in on the front lines. If you can't even trust Israel anymore, then who CAN you trust?
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