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Rancid wrote:Hopefully all of those red pill (lost) young males take too many bong rips while listening to Joe Rogan and forget to go vote.


Something freaky is going on Rancid. The website for Colorado Overseas voters is saying that there was a breach of passwords and that their might be problems....but do not worry. WTH does that mean?

No, this election is strange strange strange. Look at this message.

Updates on the Password Disclosure

The Colorado Department of State, with support from the Governor’s Office of Information Technology and Colorado Bureau of Investigation, completed updating passwords and verifying the security of all of the affected active voting systems components on October 31. The Department has confirmed that no settings had been changed on any impacted active voting equipment.

On October 24, the Colorado Department of State became aware of the disclosure of passwords on a subpage of the Department’s website. The Department was informed of the data disclosure by a voting machines vendor. The Department did not initially know whether the passwords were active.

The Department immediately removed the passwords from the website and consulted with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), which is tasked with assisting states and local governments in protecting the nation’s election infrastructure, as well as Dominion Voting Systems, which provides voting equipment for 62 of Colorado’s 64 counties. At the same time, the Department began looking at web traffic to the subpage and investigated whether there were signs of these passwords or anything related to them on the internet or dark web. The Department determined that the data disclosure did not pose an immediate security threat.

That same evening, the Department began a thorough assessment of whether the passwords were in use in active voting equipment. There are over 2,100 voting components across the state. Making this public without understanding the size and scope of the disclosure, and without having a concrete plan for determining our technical and outreach strategy, would run contrary to cybersecurity best practices and carried a significant risk of fueling the major disinformation environment that surrounds elections today.

On October 25, the Department determined that 34 of Colorado’s 64 counties were affected by the disclosure.

On October 29, the Department finished identifying the specific active voting system components affected by the password disclosure. Department staff immediately began changing passwords. County Clerks were informed that day; many had already learned of the disclosure from a press release issued by the Colorado Republican Party.


Something is going on. Colorado is a blue state folks. Why is this happening?
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Tainari88 wrote:No, John, the problem I have is that you do not care about my group at all. You do not give a fuck. Yet some tiny little island with people in Pennsylvania in Allentown or Redding might decide the outcome of this US election. And in turn, that is going to affect you in Ukraine and that war in your backyard going on. Yes, the little tiny Puerto Ricans and their tiny island might decide what the fuck happens in your Estonian reality.

See what I mean? About being interdependent and interrelated? Do you see it now?

You did not give a fuck about our powerlessness within the US government system because for you the US government is the good guy. And the Russians are the bad guys. And you are into that black vs white stark good and bad versions of politics. That is not how the world works John. It never is like that.

What it is about? CARING about the Puerto Ricans. Even though you live in Estonia. We matter. You are a tiny nation. I worry about your sovereignty with a war happening between Russia and Ukraine. I do care.

I am a tourist or outsider though. I can't vote in Estonia. But I care about all humans and injustice. The lack of rights is a concern to me in every nation. No matter how small.

I am not into oooh, big Superpower I need to kiss some ass to the superpower. No. You do not kiss anyone's ass. Especially the powerful nations with nukes. You demand HUMAN RIGHTS from all of them to be respected. To avoid war at all costs, be responsible with their taxpaying citizens and be just with their neighbors.

I do not think you gave a shit about tiny islands who the US has fucked over for over a century. But now? We are the ones who might call this election that does affect your part of the world. That should be a lesson to you John Rawls. RESPECT EVERYONE and FIGHT AGAINST discrimination and lack of voting rights. Hero worshipping Empries is for fools.

That was my point. I hope you finally understand why I did not like your attitude.

BTW, I am used to you by now. I know you are not a bad guy. But you are not the most objective thinker in this forum. ;) :D



Its complicated, I understand that you care for Puerto Rico basically and its status either outside the US as an independent country or within the US as a state.

While I am not versed in the history of Puerto Rican politics and referendums on the matter, what I understand is that there is no clear consensus over 50%(better 66% supermajority) for one option or the other and Puerto Rico is conducting or trying to conduct referendums pretty often to figure this one out. And once its done, it is not exactly a smooth sailing from there one way or the other.

The reason why I can't comment on this is because I just don't know and it seems the people of Puerto Rico as a whole are also not sure. But one thing that I can tell you on the subject is that this process will take a bit of time to get resolved both with independence or statehood even if there is a concrete decision on a referendum. Statehood is probably faster but with the crazy situation in the US and how Trump has poisoned the well with MAGA it is really hard to say.

In principle, this should be a bi-partisan agreement if Puerto Rico decides on statehood but in practice with MAGA around it probably won't be that simple. Regarding independence, once again Republicans will be against it to a large degree for once again mostly political reasons.
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JohnRawls wrote:Its complicated, I understand that you care for Puerto Rico basically and its status either outside the US as an independent country or within the US as a state.

While I am not versed in the history of Puerto Rican politics and referendums on the matter, what I understand is that there is no clear consensus over 50%(better 66% supermajority) for one option or the other and Puerto Rico is conducting or trying to conduct referendums pretty often to figure this one out. And once its done, it is not exactly a smooth sailing from there one way or the other.

The reason why I can't comment on this is because I just don't know and it seems the people of Puerto Rico as a whole are also not sure. But one thing that I can tell you on the subject is that this process will take a bit of time to get resolved both with independence or statehood even if there is a concrete decision on a referendum. Statehood is probably faster but with the crazy situation in the US and how Trump has poisoned the well with MAGA it is really hard to say.

In principle, this should be a bi-partisan agreement if Puerto Rico decides on statehood but in practice with MAGA around it probably won't be that simple. Regarding independence, once again Republicans will be against it to a large degree for once again mostly political reasons.


Tomorrow is election day. My husband has put off voting until tomorrow.

I am not translating the ballot for him. His English has been going down in flames ever since he came to Mexico. He is sliding into Spanish only mentality and it is taking effort for me. So if he wants to vote and email it in? He is going to have to do it.

No, John, this is not a referendum problem. It is about political will. And the USA is capable of murdering us in large quantities if they think we might take away their abusive power over us.

If they do not even respect the US Citizens in their own fifty states because they are the enemies within? Do you think they are going to let some garbage people in their own racist minds tell them that the American dream is not for them? That they want to REJECT US citizenship and the Russians see this and the Chinese? It is humiliating. After saying that the vermin from Central America and Mexico are trying to take over their lily white nation?

No, they won't stand for that. They will make up some lie about us being infiltrated by the spectre of a dead Fidel Castro and Nicolas Maduro and Claudia Sheinbaum has secret spies in Puerto Rico and how the US has to firebomb San Juan like they did Panama City in 1989 because Manuel Noriega might spill the beans about he being a CIA puppet.

And many of the ones who lap up that TRASH will believe it. The MAGA types will believe every lie from that deranged fascist's mouth. Or his fascist buddy's mouth. VANCE.

No, I am not naive in that way JohnRawls. I never have been.

But tomorrow the Ricans will be taking out the trash. That is for sure. :D
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Anyone want to take a bet as to when Trump will claim victory? That will be the trigger point where violence might start to occur at polling stations and counting centers. Hopefully there aren't enough idiots that will get in trouble for their dear leader.

He will time it during the period of the red mirage of course. Like last time around. What a piece of shit.
#15328858
And what is God's name is so bad about fascism anyway?

I'm no fanboi of Bennito Mussolini, but the way the Liberals talk you'd think that Mussolini's regime was the worst government in history. Now there's no doubt that Mussolini's invasion and occupation of Ethiopia was pretty brutal but that was hardly unusual for the time and was relatively mild compared with the Turkish and Kurdish Muslim genocide of the Armenians and Greeks. Even if we look at post war events like the French occupation of Algeria, which wasn't necessarily without the odd "human rights" abuse. Now this legal stuff goes way above my head but some of the super genius human rights lawyers have even suggested that the events of My Lai could have been indicative of a certain laxness on human rights even am0ngst the US armed forces. And then there's the creation of the Jewish state.

But forget about them what about Winston Churchill, his whole adult life was devoted to the expansion and defence of the British Empire. He started his career in the Sudan. He probably spent most of his childhood dreaming of empire expansion. Why in God's name does Mussolini get demonised for wanting a bit of an empire while Churchill gets remembered as a self determination virtuoso.

As I said Mussolini wouldn't be my first choice as a ruler, bur compared to these crazies he was an angel.



Mussolini's downfall was his alliance with Hitler. Hitler's rise was his bad luck. Without Hitler, Mussolini might have remained in power to a ripe old age and be remembered as another Franco or Salazar.
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Rancid wrote:Anyone want to take a bet as to when Trump will claim victory? That will be the trigger point where violence might start to occur at polling stations and counting centers. Hopefully there aren't enough idiots that will get in trouble for their dear leader.

He will time it during the period of the red mirage of course. Like last time around. What a piece of shit.


The worst case scenario would be some swing state with a razor thin margin in vote counts and it is kicked up all the way to the SCOTUS. And the SCOTUS hands victory to Trump even though some millions of voters voted for Harris in numbers.

And the Dems, go and accept again. Hoping to do well again next time. There probably won't be a next election with that Project 2025.

Trump might croak or kick the bucket while in office. And we will have a young, and energetic president that is a declared Fascist Hillbilly who learned that if you have a drug addict mother and an absentee father and are living in poverty in West Virginia? The solution is to become a right wing guy and to hell with letting the liberal elites run the show. Kick ass and let some racist rural types take power for all time.

That is the worst case scenario.

What I think is the most likely to happen? Harris gets more electoral votes, but Trump will say he won and it was rigged. The Jesus Rifle people in Georgia, and every other swingy type state has its election commission attacked and the cyber warriors who back Trump from foreign friendly nations sends out the troll farms and cyber hackers out and does some purging of the electronic voting machines and so on. It is all cast in doubt for weeks. The National Guard is sent out to bring back law and order. And all of it is delayed for a month.

Then, Christmas arrives and the MAGAs are inspired by Jesus and start planting violence in mosques, and synagogues, and there might be another attempt at Trump.

Then? The USA emerges in a state of siege. Everyone has to go home at sundown and so on....for security measures.

It means chaos folks. But that is what you have sown for believing in shitty lies for generations by now.

Never understanding the rules in your own country because history and the liberal arts and social science and political science are 'fluff subjects' and the only valuable skill is computer science, science, and math and engineering and hard stuff. LOL. No, it is not. People without a solid foundation in the formerly mentioned subject matter do not know what is going on with the arts and sciences of anthropology, sociology, urban studies, education, history, economics, etc. IT IS ALL CRITICAL stuff. Including foreign languages so you can pack your bags and go and live in another country if necessary if the nation you are in goes full blown fascist draconian police state on you.

But no....people in these miseducated nations all got to learn with the bad experiences. That is what happens in history. Talking to them does nothing.
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@Tainari88, that's why I've kept saying, the only way to have the Republican grow a pair of balls and finally drop this MAGA/Trump shit, is to be handed a decisive loss. It has to be the biggest lost in the last 30-40 years. Do not misunderstand me though. Republicans are still spinlesses pieces of shit even if they grow that pair of balls.

I have no respect for any Republican or Republican voter/supporter. Fucking 0. Fucking losers and weasels.
#15328869
Rancid wrote:@Tainari88, that's why I've kept saying, the only way to have the Republican grow a pair of balls and finally drop this MAGA/Trump shit, is to be handed a decisive loss. It has to be the biggest lost in the last 30-40 years. Do not misunderstand me though. Republicans are still spinlesses pieces of shit even if they grow that pair of balls.

I have no respect for any Republican or Republican voter/supporter. Fucking 0. Fucking losers and weasels.


Rancid, I had to put up with the sellout weasels in Puerto Rican politics for decades and years. YEARS and decades of weasels and sellouts, spineless with NO DIGNITY. That is reality Rancid.

You are not going to get a decisive victory that is a landslide.

You might get a razor win. If you do? You will have that SCOTUS interfere. Trump put in his puppet Supreme Court full of MAGA people like Virginia Thomas (Clarence Thomas' wife who literally plotted to overthrow the US government if it did not go MAGA).

They are not going away.

What is going to happen is the only way out to get rid of the racists is going to be hardball political action. HARDBALL. That means if they declare victory without popular votes? The Democrats refuse to concede. Biden sends in the national guard. They do a mass prison sweep of everyone involved in Jan 6 and they go for their heads with the military, the National Guard, and every General that refuses to go for fascism in the Pentagon. EVERYONE goes after them violently almost.

If that does not happen between now and January and the Democrats fold to Trump even though he did dirty tricks and refused to accept a thin margin of victory for Harris? You will have a dictatorship. It will be the end of it there.

The purges, hating on Latinos, murdering Muslims and Jews in their houses of worship, women not allowed to abort whether they are 12 years old and incested, etc etc. That is what the future holds.

The reason they are obsessed with abortion debates (the MAGAS) is because the gene White Christian nationalists think they will lose their country to a bunch of inferior gene, low IQ Brown shithold people. You know...the garbage island people like the Haitians, the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, Hondurans, etc. because...we are all the same fucking people. The cockaroaches of mixed race people who are Roman Catholics with too many kids overwhelming the school systems.

You are dealing with these fascist types Rancid.

I saw the writing on the wall in 2015 really. One of many reasons for leaving the US permanently.

Puerto Rico I thought would take longer to wake up out of its colonial powerlessness problem. But they woke up. One thing about the Puerto Ricans. Even the hardcore conservative sellouts HATE RACIST SHIT. They hate it.

That joke sucked. But they are so brainwashed. It took in your face shit to wake them up. I think if Trump gets to the presidency and he unleashes on the Puerto Ricans his hate and despicable opinions openly? He will unite what used to be a fractured Puerto Rico. And in that unification the idea of breaking away and stop the begging for entry into the US club is going to stop.

And we are not known for being calm and taking this lying down. The arrogant Crypto Currency assholes with $29 million dollar homes in Dorado, and the assholes bleeding PR dry in Wall Street are getting to get a horrible wake up call. A bad one.

It is strange but Colombia opened an embassy for Puerto Rico without the US government approval. The idea was in case it gots independence someday it might have at least one rep in there before it happened.

Mexico has special status for us in its immigration system. I have been doing a lot of research.

I really do not know what the future holds. But the truth of the matter is?

The USA has to overcome the racists that are an integral part of the USA's fabric for centuries now. And the future is going to have to be multicultural and multiethnic and accepting to people from all backgrounds in order to lead in the future. If it insists on a racist past? It is asking for a really bad reaction.

No one really wants to go back. And too many people have made their way up the ladder socially and economically to believe in a Lily White Christian Nationalist America that belongs in some fake 1950s set Rancid.

Let us see how they work it out eh?
#15328872
Voted. Both major candidates are a fucking disgrace, so i voted as i usually do for the Libertarian Party candidate. Im a Minarchist Statist as well as a Communist, so i feel comfortable with half their agenda as opposed to none of the mainstream candidates.
#15328873
annatar1914 wrote:Voted. Both major candidates are a fucking disgrace, so i voted as i usually do for the Libertarian Party candidate. I'm a minarchist statist as well as a Communist, so i feel comfortable with half their agenda as opposed to none of the mainstream candidates.


Similarly , I voted a few days earlier in person . Only , instead of Libertarian , I voted for the Green presidential ticket . I feel that on the whole the Green party]Green party , with its eco-socialism , and Communalism, represents my views the best .
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Deutschmania wrote:Similarly , I voted a few days earlier in person . Only , instead of Libertarian , I voted for the Green presidential ticket . I feel that on the whole the Green party]Green party , with its eco-socialism , and Communalism, represents my views the best .


@Deutschmania :

The Greens weren't on the ballot in my state. And since by my sworn constitutional oath i must vote as my civic duty, yet cannot vote for either major destroyer of the American republic Trump/Harris.... I voted Libertarian.
#15328875
Rich wrote:And what is God's name is so bad about fascism anyway?

I'm no fanboi of Bennito Mussolini, but the way the Liberals talk you'd think that Mussolini's regime was the worst government in history. Now there's no doubt that Mussolini's invasion and occupation of Ethiopia was pretty brutal but that was hardly unusual for the time and was relatively mild compared with the Turkish and Kurdish Muslim genocide of the Armenians and Greeks. Even if we look at post war events like the French occupation of Algeria, which wasn't necessarily without the odd "human rights" abuse. Now this legal stuff goes way above my head but some of the super genius human rights lawyers have even suggested that the events of My Lai could have been indicative of a certain laxness on human rights even am0ngst the US armed forces. And then there's the creation of the Jewish state.

But forget about them what about Winston Churchill, his whole adult life was devoted to the expansion and defence of the British Empire. He started his career in the Sudan. He probably spent most of his childhood dreaming of empire expansion. Why in God's name does Mussolini get demonised for wanting a bit of an empire while Churchill gets remembered as a self determination virtuoso.

As I said Mussolini wouldn't be my first choice as a ruler, bur compared to these crazies he was an angel.



Mussolini's downfall was his alliance with Hitler. Hitler's rise was his bad luck. Without Hitler, Mussolini might have remained in power to a ripe old age and be remembered as another Franco or Salazar.


Why is fascism so bad? because you are a fascist in your heart Rich? Lol.

You are the only fascist I would invite to my house in Mexico to go as a tourist. No other fascist I would consider. Simply because you are not a bourgeois crybaby in general. Hee hee.

No your martyrdom is to remain in the United Kingdom and have to have Sunak types and Boris Johnson types and the latest pendejos in 10 Downing Street determine your future.

Lol. I would not want to live with those total two faced hypocrites if they paid me millions.

Sunak being fake.

https://youtube.com/shorts/R2DW29PkyA4? ... UaLKX7A2cl

I will have you know @Rich no one is talking about that nonsense in Mexico. And they have a socialist female PhD scientist in the presidential seat. No one talks about gender confusion.

That shit is for UK, USA and every Anglo influenced insane liberal bullshit society. Not others.
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annatar1914 wrote:Voted. Both major candidates are a fucking disgrace, so i voted as i usually do for the Libertarian Party candidate. Im a Minarchist Statist as well as a Communist, so i feel comfortable with half their agenda as opposed to none of the mainstream candidates.


Watch how it went in many nations with stale two party stinky setups. The Third parties start growing. One state flashed before me and the OTHER third party was in the lead!? That says something Annatar.

I had the Green Party and the Socialists on my ballot. So? There are options.

My husband is a socialist as well. But he is doing an anti Trump vote. So he voted for Kamala. About twenty minutes ago.

Kamala does not convince me.

Colorado though is not a swing state. So Kamala is going to win in Colorado. My last vote was for Gloria LaRiva in 2020. She is a New Mexican socialist.

She speaks Spanish. Learned it as an adult. Very intelligent woman. But would never win of course. But the important thing is to get people dealing with an alternative.

Puerto Rico has a pair of handsome and bright lawyers on the pro Independence ticket. They vote today too.

Juan Dalmau and the Rep for MVC;

We struck gold with those two. Good looking, outstanding educations, great speakers, bilingual and charismatic. They have it all. Plus being diplomatic too.



This is the message he sent to the entire island. A very nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QRKkn4D4ds ... XIFzRWcDDe

Alexandra Lúgaro:



The ugly dumb candidates are not in Puerto Rico. In these two parties who are united. In pursuing independence. One is pro socialism and the other is not. They are market economy with socialized key areas which are education, healh care and housing. Everything else it is about free market capitalism with taxing the elite and light on taxation on the middle class and nothing on the poor.

Lugaro is atheist and pro legalizing marijuana. The PIP is about democratic socialism and sovereignty in food, ecology, and everything else that socialist internationalist parties are backing all over the world. Small unknown fact, the past prez of the PIP Ruben Berrios Martinez was the head of all worldwide International Socialists. That included Sanchez Zapatero in Spain and the socialists in Sweden. Ruben's first wife was Swedish. From Stockholm.

The leadership in the independence parties are incredibly well educated Puerto Ricans. Some from Oxford University, Harvard, Yale, and every Ivy League you can think of. Most speak at least two languages and are professional economists and engineers, lawyers, doctors and so on.

Most of the PNPs, were not that top shelf people on the island. They were mostly people who were caught in corruption scandals and problems. Including doing a lot of disappearing of funds. Like Ricky Rosselló who got his ass handed to him and forced out of the governorship by the people of the island years ago.

It is a very big storm brewing now. The Hurricane is coming for these sellouts running.
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Tainari88 wrote:Watch how it went in many nations with stale two party stinky setups. The Third parties start growing. One state flashed before me and the OTHER third party was in the lead!? That says something Annatar.

I had the Green Party and the Socialists on my ballot. So? There are options.

My husband is a socialist as well. But he is doing an anti Trump vote. So he voted for Kamala. About twenty minutes ago.

Kamala does not convince me.

Colorado though is not a swing state. So Kamala is going to win in Colorado. My last vote was for Gloria LaRiva in 2020. She is a New Mexican socialist.

She speaks Spanish. Learned it as an adult. Very intelligent woman. But would never win of course. But the important thing is to get people dealing with an alternative.

Puerto Rico has a pair of handsome and bright lawyers on the pro Independence ticket. They vote today too.

Juan Dalmau and the Rep for MVC;

We struck gold with those two. Good looking, outstanding educations, great speakers, bilingual and charismatic. They have it all. Plus being diplomatic too.



This is the message he sent to the entire island. A very nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QRKkn4D4ds ... XIFzRWcDDe

Alexandra Lúgaro:



The ugly dumb candidates are not in Puerto Rico. In these two parties who are united. In pursuing independence. One is pro socialism and the other is not. They are market economy with socialized key areas which are education, healh care and housing. Everything else it is about free market capitalism with taxing the elite and light on taxation on the middle class and nothing on the poor.

Lugaro is atheist and pro legalizing marijuana. The PIP is about democratic socialism and sovereignty in food, ecology, and everything else that socialist internationalist parties are backing all over the world. Small unknown fact, the past prez of the PIP Ruben Berrios Martinez was the head of all worldwide International Socialists. That included Sanchez Zapatero in Spain and the socialists in Sweden. Ruben's first wife was Swedish. From Stockholm.

The leadership in the independence parties are incredibly well educated Puerto Ricans. Some from Oxford University, Harvard, Yale, and every Ivy League you can think of. Most speak at least two languages and are professional economists and engineers, lawyers, doctors and so on.

Most of the PNPs, were not that top shelf people on the island. They were mostly people who were caught in corruption scandals and problems. Including doing a lot of disappearing of funds. Like Ricky Rosselló who got his ass handed to him and forced out of the governorship by the people of the island years ago.

It is a very big storm brewing now. The Hurricane is coming for these sellouts running.


We had 9 or 10 presidential candidates on my ballot in Washington state. When I was a young man, I felt very noble voting for the SWP candidate. Richard Nixon was the guy who in 1972 pushed me over the ledge into the Democratic Party. Ronald Reagan sealed the deal.
#15328879
Tainari88 wrote:Something freaky is going on Rancid. The website for Colorado Overseas voters is saying that there was a breach of passwords and that their might be problems....but do not worry. WTH does that mean?

No, this election is strange strange strange. Look at this message.



Something is going on. Colorado is a blue state folks. Why is this happening?



Kremlin imperialists are Planning Post-Election Chaos. Will they be successful ?

Nothing to see here! The primary task of escalation management is to protect the Moscow empire from collapsing and it will be achieved at all costs!


Putin never escalates when we help Ukraine. He escalates when we don't help enough.



still, Will they be successful (violent attacks on Election Day and beyond) ?


ps


Let’s stop it as best as we can.

Please let me know how to help!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ing-states

https://time.com/7172093/election-day-c ... ssia-iran/



https://x.com/HeliosRunner/status/1853785513330671682



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Hakeer wrote:We had 9 or 10 presidential candidates on my ballot in Washington state. When I was a young man, I felt very noble voting for the SWP candidate. Richard Nixon was the guy who in 1972 pushed me over the ledge into the Democratic Party. Ronald Reagan sealed the deal.


My parents were hard leftists. My mother was an international socialist and a member of the PIP in Puerto Rico her whole life. Never was a liberal or a democrat type. Too soft on the Republican party for her taste. Lol.

She worked mainly in education in the USA and also was a university professor for labor studies. She also loved social psychology and was outstanding in political science, social science, and was outstanding in most subjects. I recently was cleaning out my library and straightening out the books and the papers I had brought over to Mexico. It is hot and humid and you need to plan how to preserve the books. I looked at a very old transcript of hers from her university days. I looked through her entire transcripts looking for a B. It was all 'A'. 'A' in Psychology. 'A' in history of the USA, 'A' in history of Spain, 'A' in French History, 'A' in Greek Western Civilization, 'A' here, 'A' there. 'A' all the time including statistics and logic and so on an so forth. Economics 'A'. Biology with lab 'A'. Government Analysis 'A'. I mean I looked for something she might suck at...I could not find it. I smiled.

She did not fail at anything. Outstanding student. They have her thesis at the University of Puerto Rico stored. She finished her post graduate education in the states. The MA and the doctorate were from California.

She was always humble, down to earth, honest and brilliant. With good values. And never a sellout. She thought that was the number one problem in politics. People who were not really believers in their own politics based on truth and experiences in life and their educations, but on making money and catering to the ones who wanted to bribe and corrupt a democracy for their own personal gains. Sellouts.

They destroy it all with a lack of ethics Hakeer. If you have a sincere Republican and Conservative who refuses to budge on his principles? That is honest and trustworthy? You can talk with them and reach an agreement that is honored.

But if you have people who are just corrupt sellouts and who are selfish and damaging behavior people with a psychology of irresponsibility and unethical and untrustworthy character? You are in deep trouble.

She was right about that.
#15328886
Tainari88 wrote:Watch how it went in many nations with stale two party stinky setups. The Third parties start growing. One state flashed before me and the OTHER third party was in the lead!? That says something Annatar.

I had the Green Party and the Socialists on my ballot. So? There are options.

My husband is a socialist as well. But he is doing an anti Trump vote. So he voted for Kamala. About twenty minutes ago.

Kamala does not convince me.

Colorado though is not a swing state. So Kamala is going to win in Colorado. My last vote was for Gloria LaRiva in 2020. She is a New Mexican socialist.

She speaks Spanish. Learned it as an adult. Very intelligent woman. But would never win of course. But the important thing is to get people dealing with an alternative.

Puerto Rico has a pair of handsome and bright lawyers on the pro Independence ticket. They vote today too.

Juan Dalmau and the Rep for MVC;

We struck gold with those two. Good looking, outstanding educations, great speakers, bilingual and charismatic. They have it all. Plus being diplomatic too.



This is the message he sent to the entire island. A very nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/live/QRKkn4D4ds ... XIFzRWcDDe

Alexandra Lúgaro:



The ugly dumb candidates are not in Puerto Rico. In these two parties who are united. In pursuing independence. One is pro socialism and the other is not. They are market economy with socialized key areas which are education, healh care and housing. Everything else it is about free market capitalism with taxing the elite and light on taxation on the middle class and nothing on the poor.

Lugaro is atheist and pro legalizing marijuana. The PIP is about democratic socialism and sovereignty in food, ecology, and everything else that socialist internationalist parties are backing all over the world. Small unknown fact, the past prez of the PIP Ruben Berrios Martinez was the head of all worldwide International Socialists. That included Sanchez Zapatero in Spain and the socialists in Sweden. Ruben's first wife was Swedish. From Stockholm.

The leadership in the independence parties are incredibly well educated Puerto Ricans. Some from Oxford University, Harvard, Yale, and every Ivy League you can think of. Most speak at least two languages and are professional economists and engineers, lawyers, doctors and so on.

Most of the PNPs, were not that top shelf people on the island. They were mostly people who were caught in corruption scandals and problems. Including doing a lot of disappearing of funds. Like Ricky Rosselló who got his ass handed to him and forced out of the governorship by the people of the island years ago.

It is a very big storm brewing now. The Hurricane is coming for these sellouts running.


@Tainari88 :

I believe that a Socialist has to think dialectically when looking at the political issues. In this day and age, a Socialist has to look at the private entities, the corporations, as the centre of strategic gravity of the reactionary forces. We have to operate as if the innate Anarco Capitalism of the Right is what is actively against us.
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